2012/8/3 Sheppy <[email protected]>

> On Friday, August 3, 2012 12:02:10 AM UTC-4, Benoit Jacob wrote:
>
>
> > The #1 problem for many people with the current MDN wiki was that it
> didn't
> > offer mediawiki-compatible markup editing. It would be great to be able
> to
> > use right away one's familiarity with mediawiki markup (which is what
> most
> > people know), and of course being able to copy and paste contents to/from
> > mediawikis would be a huge benefit of that. Will the new wiki system
> offer
> > that? Sorry, I hadn't heard of Kuma and a google search for Kuma Wiki
> > didn't return useful results.
>
> Kuma continues to use HTML as its markup language; this is a
> universally-known standard that we think makes sense. Switching back to
> MediaWiki markup was not a viable option after years of using standard HTML.
>
> While I personally don't understand some people's fascination with
> MediaWiki syntax (I can't stand it, myself), I know this is a Big Deal to
> some people.
>
> Unfortunately, there was no way to satisfy everyone, and we had to make a
> decision. In the end, for both technical and social reasons (more people
> know and like HTML than MediaWiki syntax -- indeed, I bet you know HTML
> yourself), it just made more sense to use HTML.
>

It's really just about convenience to type, for example,

   <a href="otherpage.html">foo</a>

vs

   [[otherpage|foo]]

In other words, while HTML is universally known, it isn't convenience to
type text documents in; mediawiki is.


>
> That said, we know that there are people that prefer MediaWiki and we'll
> see if we can find a way to let people use some kind of tool that lets them
> paste MediaWiki syntax in and get it automatically converted into HTML. But
> that's not going to happen right away, since there are still some more
> fundamental site features we need to work on.
>
> I know this is frustrating to some people that prefer MediaWiki syntax,
> and we'll see what we can do. I just can't make any promises, and obviously
> anything we do manage to do won't be the same as a raw MediaWiki setup.
>

Even just minimal basic support for some mediawiki markup would make it
more convenient for me to type documents in, than to have to type in HTML
or use a WYSIWYG editor.


> I'm surprised you hadn't heard of Kuma; we've been talking about it at
> length for over a year, including posts to this very mailing list asking
> for people to help us test it. This makes me feel sad since we worked so
> hard to get the word out. :)
>

Nah, I don't read mailing lists carefully enough and I don't contribute
much to MDN, so this only speaks of my own ignorance.

Thanks for taking care of MDN!
Benoit



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