On 08/03/2012 11:38 AM, Benoit Jacob wrote:
2012/8/3 Jeff Hammel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
I would argue HTML is a good, or even great, backing format. It's
what mozilla does. It is a real standard. There are a plethora of
tools to deal with HTML documents. It is very malleable. There is
a clear DOM translation to its markup.
How is this compatible with the fact that earlier in this thread, it
has been said that the fact that the HTML source of MDN pages was hard
to translate to other markup languages, meaning that offering another
markup editing option would be hard?
Source formats should be easy to translate to other formats. HTML is
mostly a final-form format, in this respect. HTML code generated by
WYSIWYG editors even more so.
Benoit
mediawiki syntax does not cover all of HTML. HTML is a superset of what
mediawiki can represent, so that it can not be losslessly translated to
mediawiki syntax. There are translators that do this, e.g.
http://code.google.com/p/gwtwiki/wiki/HTML2Mediawiki , but since
mediawiki does not support all of HTML, what to do for markup that can't
be translated is a non-trivial question.
That said, we know that there are people that prefer
MediaWiki and we'll
see if we can find a way to let people use some kind of
tool that lets them
paste MediaWiki syntax in and get it automatically
converted into HTML. But
that's not going to happen right away, since there are
still some more
fundamental site features we need to work on.
I know this is frustrating to some people that prefer
MediaWiki syntax,
and we'll see what we can do. I just can't make any
promises, and obviously
anything we do manage to do won't be the same as a raw
MediaWiki setup.
Even just minimal basic support for some mediawiki markup
would make it
more convenient for me to type documents in, than to have to
type in HTML
or use a WYSIWYG editor.
I'm surprised you hadn't heard of Kuma; we've been talking
about it at
length for over a year, including posts to this very
mailing list asking
for people to help us test it. This makes me feel sad
since we worked so
hard to get the word out. :)
Nah, I don't read mailing lists carefully enough and I don't
contribute
much to MDN, so this only speaks of my own ignorance.
Thanks for taking care of MDN!
Benoit
Eric Shepherd
Developer Documentation Lead
Mozilla
http://www.bitstampede.com/
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