On 08/24/2012 11:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
Aryeh Gregor wrote:
1) Decide on guidelines for whether a test is internal or
reusable. As a starting point, I suggest that all tests that are
regular webpages that don't use any Mozilla-specific features
should be candidates for reuse.  Examples of internal tests would
be tests written in XUL and unit tests.  In particular, I think we
should write tests for reuse if they cover anything that other
browsers implement or might implement, even if there's currently no
standard for it. Other browsers should still be able to run these
tests, even if they might decide not to follow them.  Also, tests
that currently use prefixed web-exposed properties should still be
made reusable, since the properties should eventually be
unprefixed.

Which other browser makers are going to follow these guidelines, so
that we benefit from them? Generally, this is a great idea if it
makes it faster and easier to improve Firefox. But, like Asa, I also
interpreted this proposal along the lines of "Spend resources, and
slow down Firefox development, to help other browsers." That seems
totally in line with our values, but doesn't seem great as far as
competitiveness is concerned.

Looking at <http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/submission/>, there are tests from Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Opera, as well as from other organizations who benefit from interoperable implementations (Baidu, Comcast, Intel, …) and individuals (David Carlisle, Mathias Bynens, Philip Taylor, Aryeh, and myself). Some of those tests are already running on tinderbox.

Also, are you saying "if you are going to write a mochitest, then try
to write a reusable test" or "if you are going to write a test, write
a reusable test?" The reason I ask is that we're supposed to write
xpcshell tests in preference to mochitests when possible, and I'd
hate the preference to change to be in favor of mochitests, because
xpcshell tests are much more convenient (and faster) to write and
run.

Kyle already answered this.

HTH
Ms2ger
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