On Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:44:28 AM UTC-8, Jim Mathies wrote:
> > > Our Talos results may be measuring imperfect things, but we have
> > > enough datapoints that we can draw statistical conclusions from
> > > them confidently.
> 
> > Statistics doesn't help if you're measuring the wrong things. Whether Ts 
> > is measuring the wrong thing, I don't know. It would be possible to learn 
> > something about that question by measuring startup with a camera, 
> > Telemetry simple measures, and Talos on the same machine and seeing how 
> > they compare.
> 
> "Ts, Paint" measures the time between a call to window.open to the first 
> MozAfterPaint for that window in a running process. It's analogous to 
> hitting ctrl-n in Firefox. The page that gets loaded is light weight.  It 
> measures pretty much everything associated with window creation, including 
> widget, dom, layout, and browser front end window startup and rendering. 
> It's a very good test IMHO.

I looked at the code and saw that. It looked to me like it was probably 
measuring about the right thing, although it is measuring the times inside 
JS/Python code that could conceivably introduce delays. It's part of an entire 
system, though, and the results are only correct if the whole system works 
correctly, and I don't know that that's been tested recently.

Dave
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