On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Brian Smith <br...@briansmith.org> wrote: > I am making the assumption for now that Flash is the main thing we don't > have a solution for.
In the present tense, we have neither Pepper nor Shumway shipping. Considering what we'll have in the future, do you have a reason to believe Shumway wouldn't qualify as a "solution", particularly with some current uses of Flash migrating to browser-native APIs? On the topic of getting current uses of Flash to migrate to browser-native APIs, perhaps contributing to one of the Flex to JavaScript compilers would be more cost-effective than implementing Pepper and arranging the availability of the Pepper version of Flash to Firefox users. > I am not making this assumption. I am not saying "we should/must do > Pepper." I am saying that it isn't right to say there is "little benefit" > to Pepper. Even with Flash being the "only" Pepper plugin, the (potential) > security advantages of Pepper make it very valuable. That's assuming that there would be a way to get a Pepper version of Flash to Firefox users under reasonable terms/price and that Shumway wouldn't satisfy users' swf rendering needs. > Also, several internal systems within Mozilla Corporation are Flash-based, > including our company-wide videoconferencing system and parts of our > payroll system (IIUC). I think it would be great if we developed a plan for > Mozilla Corporation to be able to dogfood a Flash-player-free Firefox > internally by the end of 2014, at least. That would be a great goal. I'm really looking forward to a WebRTC-based replacement for Vidyo. (Fun security speculation experiment: How much less secure are Mozilla's LDAP passwords because Vidyo forces people to have passwords that they are able to type into a Flash applet repeatedly instead to letting Firefox manage a long randomly generated unrememberable password?) -- Henri Sivonen hsivo...@hsivonen.fi http://hsivonen.iki.fi/ _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform