Just noticed no one looped back here. Joel filed bug 1337844 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1337844> and bug 1337839 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1337839>. There has been some discussion there. To summarize, running tests locally is currently optimized towards "Run all tests related to code in <dir>" instead of "Run all tests in <job in automation>". Optimizing for one by default, comes with a trade off on the other.
That being said, I think there is some low hanging fruit that could make the overall situation better, namely: * Ability to run manifests in the args, e.g: ./mach mochitest path/to/manifest.ini (this would bypass subdirs) * An overall summary (bug 1209463 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1209463>) * A mode to prevent multi-Firefox instances from running (we would error out if e.g multiple dirs or subsuites would be run) * Advertising/bootstrapping aliases for common configurations, e.g add the following to ~/.mozbuild/machrc: [alias] mochitest-media = mochitest -f plain --subsuite media I agree that this kind of stuff is important, though can't make promises on a timeline. -Andrew On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Mike Conley <mcon...@mozilla.com> wrote: > There's good feedback in here. Are some of these known, jmaher? Are any > intentional choices, or should we just start turning these into bugs to > get fixed? > > On 08/02/2017 12:33 AM, Bill McCloskey wrote: > > Hi Joel, > > I spent about an hour tonight trying to debug a test failure, and I'm > > writing this email in frustration at how difficult it is. It seems like > the > > process has actually gotten a lot worse over the last few years (although > > it was never good). Here's the situation I ran into: > > > > A test is failing on try. I want to reproduce it. Assume that running the > > test by itself isn't sufficient. I would like to run whatever set of > tests > > actually ran together on the test machine in a single Firefox > invocation. I > > don't want any more tests to run than those. I can't figure out any way > to > > do that. > > > > I can pass a directory to |mach mochitest|. But that has a number of > > problems: > > - It also runs every subdirectory recursively inside that directory. > Often > > that includes way more tests. I can't figure out any way to stop it from > > doing this. I tried the "--chunk-by-dir" option, but it complains that > the > > argument is supposed to be an integer. What is this option for? > > - |mach mochitest| runs all flavor of tests even though I only want one. > > There is the --flavor option to disable that. But I have never figured > out > > how to use it correctly. No matter what I do, some irrelevant devtools > are > > a11y or plugin tests seem to run instead of what I want. > > - There is a --start-at option that should allow me to start running > tests > > near the one that I want. But it never seems to work either. I'm not sure > > if it's confounded by the two problems above, or if it's just completely > > broken. > > > > We could easily fix this by printing in the tinderbox log the mach > command > > that you need to run in order to run the tests for a particular directory > > (and making that discoverable through treeherder). > > > > I want to emphasize that, from a developer's perspective, this is the > > second most basic thing that I could ask for. (Simply running a test by > > itself is the most basic, and it works fine.) Running tests by directory > in > > automation has been a huge improvement, but we're not really earning the > > dividends from it because it's so hard to get the same behavior locally. > > > > Anyway, sorry about the rant. And sorry to pick on your email. But it's > > frustrating to see all these advanced ideas being proposed when we can't > > even get basic stuff right. > > > > As an aside, I would also like to complain about the decision to strip a > > lot of the useful information out of test logs. I understand this was > done > > to make the tests faster, and I can "just" check in a patch to add > > "SimpleTest.requestCompleteLog()" to the intermittent test. But why > didn't > > we instead figure out why logging was so slow and fix that? > Fundamentally, > > it doesn't seem like saving 50MB of log data to S3 should take very long. > > > > -Bill > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:40 AM, <jma...@mozilla.com> wrote: > > > >> This is the second update of project stockwell (first update: > >> https://goo.gl/1X31t8). > >> > >> This month we will be recommending and asking that intermittent failures > >> that occur >=30 times/week be resolved within 2 weeks of triaging them. > >> > >> Yesterday we had these stats: > >> Orange Factor: 10.75 (https://goo.gl/qvFbeB) > >> count(high_frequency_bugs): 61 > >> > >> Last month we had these stats: > >> Orange Factor: 13.76 (https://goo.gl/o5XOof) > >> count(high_frequency_bugs): 42 > >> > >> For more details of the bugs and what we are working on, you can read > more > >> on this recent blog post: > >> https://elvis314.wordpress.com/2017/02/07/project- > stockwell-february-2017/ > >> > >> Thanks for helping out with intermittent test failures when we ping you > >> about them! > >> _______________________________________________ > >> dev-platform mailing list > >> dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > >> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > dev-platform mailing list > > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform > > > _______________________________________________ > dev-platform mailing list > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform > _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform