Hi Ryan,


As I understand, the BR 4.2.1 required this:

“The CA SHALL develop, maintain, and implement documented procedures that 
identify and require additional verification activity for High Risk Certificate 
Requests prior to the Certificate’s approval, as reasonably necessary to ensure 
that such requests are properly verified under these Requirements.”



Please clarify this request, thanks.





Best Regards,



Richard



From: Ryan Sleevi [mailto:r...@sleevi.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:21 AM
To: Richard Wang <rich...@wosign.com>
Cc: Gervase Markham <g...@mozilla.org>; Tony Zhaocheng Tan <t...@tonytan.io>; 
mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Let's Encrypt appears to issue a certificate for a domain that 
doesn't exist



Hi Richard,



There's no policies in the Baseline Requirements or Mozilla Requirements that 
normalize or define high risk domain, which I believe your suggestion 
presupposes.



Perhaps you (or Qihoo 360, as the voting member of the Forum of the 
Qihoo/WoSign/StartCom collection) would consider proposing a Ballot to the 
Baseline Requirements to address this. Alternatively, perhaps you would have a 
concrete suggestion for Mozilla Root CA Inclusion Policy 2.5 that might be able 
to address this in a consistent and auditable way and in a manner consistent 
with Mozilla's policy goals regarding misissuance.



This is https://github.com/mozilla/pkipolicy/issues/1 for what it's worth, 
recently resolved in Policy 2.4



On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Richard Wang via dev-security-policy 
<dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org<mailto:dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org>>
 wrote:

   I think "apple-id-2.com<http://apple-id-2.com>" is a high risk domain that 
must be blocked to issue DV SSL to those domains.

   Here is the list of some high risk domains related to Microsoft and Google 
that Let's Encrypt issued DV SSL certificates to those domains:
   https://crt.sh/?id=77034583  for 
microsoftonline.us.com<http://microsoftonline.us.com>, a fake Office 365 login 
site
   https://crt.sh/?id=71789336  for 
mail.google-androids.ru<http://mail.google-androids.ru>
   https://crt.sh/?id=82075006  for marketgoogle.xyz<http://marketgoogle.xyz>
   https://crt.sh/?id=65208905  for google.ligboy.org<http://google.ligboy.org>


   Best Regards,

   Richard


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 On Behalf Of Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
   Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:30 AM
   To: Tony Zhaocheng Tan <t...@tonytan.io<mailto:t...@tonytan.io>>; 
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   Subject: Re: Let's Encrypt appears to issue a certificate for a domain that 
doesn't exist

   On 22/02/17 14:42, Tony Zhaocheng Tan wrote:
   > On 2017-01-03, Let's Encrypt issued a certificate for 
apple-id-2.com<http://apple-id-2.com>.
   > However, until today, the domain apple-id-2.com<http://apple-id-2.com> has 
apparently never
   > been registered. How was the certificate issued?

   On Hacker News, Josh Aas writes:

   "Head of Let's Encrypt here. Our team is looking into this and so far we 
don't see any evidence of mis-issuance in our logs. It looks like the domain in 
question, 'apple-id-2.com<http://apple-id-2.com>', was registered and DNS 
resolved for it successfully at time of issuance. Here is the valid 
authorization record including the resolved IP addresses for 
'apple-id-2.com<http://apple-id-2.com>':

   https://acme-v01.api.letsencrypt.org/acme/authz/uZGv2KXUJ6Hl...

   We can't be sure why the reporter was unable to find a WHOIS record, we can 
only confirm that validation properly succeeded at time of issuance.

   Update: Squarespace has confirmed that they did register the domain and then 
released it after getting a certificate from us."

   There is currently an entry in WHOIS, because some well-meaning but 
unhelpful person registered it today. I assume that if a domain is registered 
and then released, and then re-registered, the "Creation"
   date is of the re-registration, not the first ever registration.

   So unless someone can show it was unregistered at the time of issuance, I 
don't see an issue here.

   Gerv
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