> and we don't think our brand is "tarnishing", we are working hard to try to 
> regain the trust and confidence in this community.

Wasn't a prerequisite for that process your stepping down as CEO of WoSign?



On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 9:49:25 PM UTC-4, Richard Wang wrote:
> To be transparent, WoSign are NOT "acquiring the HARICA root" that we NEVER 
> contact HARICA, and we don't think our brand is "tarnishing", we are working 
> hard to try to regain the trust and confidence in this community.
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Richard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev-security-policy 
> [mailto:dev-security-policy-bounces+richard=wosign....@lists.mozilla.org] On 
> Behalf Of Peter Kurrasch via dev-security-policy
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:02 PM
> To: Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy <g...@mozilla.org>; 
> mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org
> Subject: Re: Criticism of Google Re: Google Trust Services roots
> 
> By "not new", are you referring to Google being the second(?) instance where 
> a company has purchased an individual root cert from another company? It's 
> fair enough to say that Google isn't the first but I'm not aware of any 
> commentary or airing of opposing viewpoints as to the suitability of this 
> practice going forward.
> 
> Has Mozilla received any notification that other companies ‎intend to acquire 
> individual roots from another CA? I wouldn't ask Mozilla to violate any 
> non-disclosures but surely it's possible to let the community know if we 
> should expect more of this? Ryan H. implied as much in a previous post but I 
> wasn't sure where he was coming from on that.
> 
> Also, does Mozilla have any policies (requirements?) regarding individual 
> root acquisition? For example, how frequently should roots be allowed to 
> change hands? What would Mozilla's response be if WoSign were to say that 
> because of the tarnishing of their own brand they are acquiring the HARICA 
> root? What if Vladimir Putin were to make such a purchase? Any requirements 
> on companies notifying the public when the acquisition takes place?
> 
> Perhaps this is putting too much of a burden on Mozilla as a somewhat 
> protector of the global PKI but I'm not sure who else is in a better position 
> for that role?
> 
> 
>   Original Message
> From: Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:06 AM
> To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org
> Reply To: Gervase Markham
> Subject: Re: Criticism of Google Re: Google Trust Services roots
> 
> On 29/03/17 20:46, Peter Kurrasch wrote:
> > It's not inconsequential for Google to say: "From now on, nobody can
> > trust what you see in the root certificate, even if some of it appears
> > in the browser UI. The only way you can actually establish trust is to
> > do frequent, possibly complicated research." It doesn't seem right
> > that Google be allowed to unilaterally impose that change on the
> > global PKI without any discussion from the security community.
> 
> As others in this thread have pointed out, this is not a new thing. I 
> wouldn't say that Google is "imposing" this need.
> 
> Gerv
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