On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 03:38:24PM -0700, browserpadlock--- via 
dev-security-policy wrote:
> On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 12:16:13 PM UTC-4, Jonathan Rudenberg wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019, at 14:53, browserpadlock--- via dev-security-policy 
> > wrote:
> > > It seems that the Certificate Authorities are doing their jobs quite 
> > > well in regards to EV certs and making sure that it is very difficult 
> > > for non-qualified/verified sites to get them according to a recently 
> > > concluded study by Georgia Tech CyFI Lab 
> > > (https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2019/08/01/ev-ssl-certificate/), a 
> > > well respected technical institution, NOT funded by the CA industry.
> > 
> > This paper was paid for by Sectigo, this was clearly noted in their press 
> > release:
> > https://sectigo.com/blog/new-research-in-ev-ssl-security-from-georgia-tech-ev-domains-99-99-free-of-online-crime
> > 
> > The methodology is deeply flawed, for example these are some of the 
> > "malicious" domains from their dataset:
> > 
> > extended-validation-ssl.websecurity.symantec.com
> > hotmail.co.jp
> > math.northwestern.edu
> > downloads.comodo.com
> 
> Thanks for the update Jonathan, the article I read didn't mention the
> funding source, but the article wasn't the point of my post.

For something that wasn't the point of your post, it seems to have a
very prominent position therein.

> Bottom line, why strip out of view the only browser mechanism that
> identifies the owner of a website?

Because it doesn't provide any benefit commensurate with the costs.

> Why not force the CA's to improve the EV validation process and create a
> ubiquitous user experiences around EV across ALL browsers so that visitors
> can begin to see the commonality of EV's purpose?

Because there have been no plausible proposals made which meaningfully
improve the EV validation process to address the flaws.

> For the betterment of a safer and more trustworthy Internet, why digress
> from the concept of web identity verification instead of trying to make it
> better?

Because "web identity verification", as embodied in EV, has not been shown
to contribute to "the betterment of a safer and more trustworthy Internet".

- Matt

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