On Fri, 22 May 2020 22:48:42 +0000
Daniela Hood via dev-security-policy
<dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Thank you for all the comments in this thread.  We filed an incident
> report related to the revocation timing that can be followed here:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1640310.  We also
> identified the error in revocation reason as a user error, corrected
> the error and provided feedback to the employee.

In addition to Ryan's concerns about the supposed ambiguity of a
pretty clear rule in the BRs I am as always interested in what can be
learned from incidents that might help everybody else.


What mechanism, if any, would have detected this "user error" in the
absence of a report by a third party to m.d.s.policy ?

Every CA has humans doing stuff, and humans make mistakes. Whether
that's a Let's Encrypt team member fat-fingering a server configuration
or a Symantec employee using google.com rather than a Symantec name for
a test. But even though it's expected for humans to make mistakes, we
demand more of the Certificate Authority than we could ask of one human.

Where humans are necessary they will make mistakes and so you need
compensating controls. In this case that might mean reviewing critical
work done by humans. Depending on volume that might mean a second
person looks at every revocation, or it might mean a sample is examined
once a week for example.

I'd like to see incident reports like this not stop at "user error" for
this reason. Why wasn't the "user error" caught? What (other than
"feedback to the employee") prevents it happening again ?


Nick.
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