On Apr 13, 2012, at 10:37 PM, Adrienne Porter Felt wrote:

> 
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Lucas Adamski <[email protected]> wrote:
> Even from my casual poking around in app stores its clear many mobile camera 
> apps are applying realtime custom filters in preview, so we'd need a pretty 
> compelling case to discourage that entire class of functionality.
> 
> Yes.  I had not realized that applications actively edited streams of data 
> during the preview phase.  This is indeed a problem with the approach.  We 
> don't want people to have to click an extra button (one to start preview and 
> another to capture) -- we'd been hoping that fitting the permission granting 
> to the capture action would implicitly add the permission prompt to the 
> user's flow without adding an extra step.
>  
> Put another way, maybe your proposal is how we handle the user agent mediated 
> approach, but apps can still request direct access to camera via a more 
> traditional, persist able permission dialog?
> 
> I do agree that the proposal is mostly the same: I think that the permission 
> should be granted at run-time, and there should be a notification.  However, 
> the way that the actual permission prompt is shown to the user is very 
> important, and a runtime dialog is not equivalent to a magic permission 
> button.  Traditional permission dialogs do not work (there are many, many 
> studies that show this).  The traditional permission dialog gets in the way, 
> so people want to click through it as fast as possible in most cases, which 
> leads them to click through as fast as possible out of habit every time.  A 
> special "capture" button isn't an extra step -- it's the same step that 
> people take in most camera apps.
> 
> I'm trying to brainstorm a new way to fit trusted UI into the user's normal 
> flow that would enable preview modification, without throwing up a standard 
> dialog.  If anyone buys my case that we need such a thing, suggestions for 
> how to get around the preview problem would be awesome.  :)

Instead of this button being embedded in the app, could it be provided in the 
door hanger?
  Lucas.
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