Eddy Nigg wrote, On 2009-03-21 15:08:
> On 03/21/2009 10:43 PM, Nelson B Bolyard:
>> The consensus of which you speak is actually a consensus among users of
>> those crappy servers that, with those servers, client auth is unusable.
>> I am part of that consensus.  But I do not agree that changing the
>> client to reward crappy servers is any part of the solution.  And I
>> "vote with my wallet" on all those crappy servers.  I won't use them.
>>   
> 
> Wowowow.....slow down a bit my dear friend. As I would defend Mr.
> Bolyard and this team elsewhere I'm going to defend Mr. Engelschall and
> his crew here...interestingly both are serving a similar community and
> work in a similar eco-system.
> 
> Just for your knowledge, those crappy servers you are attacking here are
> serving the majority of web sites. The crappy server, aka A-Patchy
> server is very well tested and in use at millions of service and content
> providers.

I don't think we have a generic problem with Apache, Eddy.  Apache can be
configured to work well with client auth.  It often is not, but that's an
admin problem.

The servers of which I wrote that are configured by default to request
client auth, with server session cache disabled, and dropping all
connections that actually do client auth, are not Apache servers, AFAIK.
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