IMHO would be great to make a joint effort and provide a coherent way for people to create their apps. Bricks is really great, and think we can use what we have learnt in the creation of Building Firefox OS (which is far from perfect) to provide a consistent way for people not having the visual/interaction/dev skills to create their own web apps. For me that's not going against open web, at the contrary, it's democratizing the access to app creation using the web as a platform.
//Sergi El 28/08/2013, a las 19:09, "Daniel Buchner" <[email protected]> escribió: > A recent article on Brick wraps up the issue well: > > *"If you are planning to create an app for Firefox OS there isn't much > official guidance on what to use for the UI - jQuery Mobile, The UX > Building Blocks or now Brick? * > > *Mozilla needs to get a coherent SDK for Firefox OS apps together very soon > and stop pretending that developing for it is just the same as developing a > general web app. * > * * > > *Despite the lack of communication, Brick looks good and especially so if > you are attempting to create a Firefox OS app - but surely it should be > called Bricks?"* > > The answer to this problem is to get Brick to 1.0 then strongly suggest it > to developers as our UI "SDK", under the name *Mozilla App Components*, > within the new MDN App Center - the presentation will not be too far from > this --> http://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/index.html > > It's all in-flight, and we're gearing up all areas for legitimate, > product-class support of these initiatives. > > Daniel J. Buchner > Product Manager, Developer Ecosystem > Mozilla Corporation > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:53 AM, William Selman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The interviews I conducted last fall with both Mozilla community >> developers and developers who develop in Android and for Windows echo >> Kumar's point very strongly. >> >> Developers frequently feel insecure about their design and UX skills but >> want to develop apps for the pleasure of development. They universally said >> this insecurity was an obstacle to them getting started on a project and >> that a reusable set of widgets that passed some modicum of design >> excellence would alleviate that insecurity. >> >> Sent via mobile >> >> On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Kumar McMillan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Fabrice Desre <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 08/27/2013 11:52 AM, Bill Maggs wrote: >>>>> The last item in Fred's list is I think a very high priority. Can the >> buildingfirefoxos.com folk help? >>>> >>>> I don't want to open a can of worms, but that is controversial at best. >>>> Encouraging people to build apps that follow the same look and feel as >>>> gaia apps and not just build "web apps" is not very much in line with >>>> the "open web" idea. Will these app look also good on desktop (hint: >>>> gaia apps don't)? Will they look good on android? Most successful apps >>>> have their own look and feel, which is part of their identity. The Gaia >>>> look and feel is ... Gaia's identity. I kind of don't want to get random >>>> apps appear like default ones also; and while there's nothing we can do >>>> to prevent that to happen, we should not promote it either. >>> >>> On the contrary, I think a major feature missing from the web (and >> what's needed for Firefox OS) is to solve the case of "I'm a newbie >> developer and want to build an app ASAP and I want it to look good." This, >> IMO, is the pinnacle of IOS's success. If you use Apple's interface >> elements you are building upon the expertise of Apple's interface >> designers. I'm not saying iOS is perfect I'm just saying that the mobile >> web currently doesn't provide anything like that unless you pay for Sencha. >> (Arguably jquery UI helps but it has its own issues.) >>> >>> Of course, there will always be apps like Facebook, Gmail, Instagram, >> etc, who go beyond the basics and customize all of their UI components >> because they have put their own thought and expertise into the UI. This is >> the state of the current web: you have to be a *UI expert* in order to >> build an app. Let's help non-experts make beautiful apps in Firefox OS. >> Brick can do that. >>> >>> The problem can be solved in many ways. Exposing the Gaia theme as >> something you can use in Brick is one way. Another way, as mentioned in the >> thread, is to let skilled UI designers contribute Brick themes for others >> to use. I do think exposing the Gaia theme is useful though because a lot >> of thought and skill went into making those UI components. >>> >>> If the entire Firefox OS ecosystem is not beautiful, fun, and easy to >> use, we will have lost. >>> >>> Kumar >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I'm very happy to see brick solve the problem of providing well designed >>>> and efficient reusable components, but we should stay away from the look >>>> and feel. Please don't help build a firefox OS silo. Let other people >>>> contribute fun and crazy themes on top of brick instead! >>>> >>>> Fabrice >>>> -- >>>> Fabrice Desré >>>> b2g team >>>> Mozilla Corporation > _______________________________________________ > dev-gaia mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-gaia ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra política de envío y recepción de correo electrónico en el enlace situado más abajo. 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