The organic solution seems to have arisen from the Apache Software Foundation by way of their issue tracking system.
Others have stated concerns already, so aside from doing this "for the people," would this also address a problem? "The contribution workflow using Jira is longer and more painful than the workflow using GitHub issues. This is not a big deal for large contributions but it adds up when you make a lot of small contributions. Creating a Jira account and using Jira is also a roadblock for Apache newbies. We should make it as easy as possible to contribute to Accumulo." This implies that JIRA is an impediment to contributions in some way. Do we think this will help solve that problem? Is that a real or imagined impediment to progress? On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote: > We tell users that try to file issues on the "unsupported" issue tracker > that they've created the issue in the wrong place and point them to the > right issue tracker. > > > On 2/14/18 10:29 PM, Christopher wrote: > >> Can you elaborate on what kind of human controls you mean? What if a user >> finds the GH issues and creates an issue there? What action should the >> developers take? >> >> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:27 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> I didn't ask for automated controls here -- human controls are fine. >>> >>> I have already said I am -1 on two concurrent issue trackers. If >>> developers want to evaluate them, that's fine. >>> >>> On 2/14/18 10:12 PM, Christopher wrote: >>> >>>> I don't think we have the ability to lock out non-committers from >>>> >>> creating >>> >>>> new GH issues if we enable them, nor do I think it would make sense to >>>> do >>>> so, since that's a valuable use case to consider during any trial period >>>> before shutting off JIRA. >>>> >>>> As for switching immediately to GH issues for non-primary repo >>>> (-website, >>>> -examples, -docker, etc...) I think that makes sense since those are >>>> already confusing when filed in the JIRA mixed in with the main repo's >>>> issues. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:25 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am OK with committers ONLY using GH issues on all repos (with clear >>>>> guidance as to what the heck the project is doing) or doing a >>>>> full-switch on the other repos. >>>>> >>>>> On 2/14/18 7:00 PM, Mike Miller wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We could do a trial period of GitHub issues for the accumulo sub-repos >>>>>> (accumulo-website, accumulo-examples...) then after a month or two >>>>>> >>>>> decide >>> >>>> to switch or not. That way we won't have duplicate issues or the >>>>>> >>>>> confusion >>>>> >>>>>> of having 2 trackers for one repository. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Mike Walch <mwa...@apache.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 I think it makes sense to try out GitHub before shutting off JIRA. >>>>>>> >>>>>> This >>>>> >>>>>> period could be limited to a month or two. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> What if we had an interim transition period, tentatively using GitHub >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> to >>>>> >>>>>> determine it's suitability for our workflows, and shut off JIRA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> later? >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 5:51 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> I disagree with Mike in that I don't find JIRA to be so painful that >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it >>>>> >>>>>> necessitates us changing, but I wouldn't block a move to GH issues >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> if >>> >>>> we >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> turn off our JIRA use. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2/14/18 4:29 PM, Mike Drob wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> @josh - How do you feel about move from JIRA to GH Issues >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> completely? >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I believe I already stated -1 the last time this was brought up. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Using two issue trackers is silly. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/14/18 3:30 PM, Mike Walch wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I want to enable GitHub issues for Accumulo's repos. This is not >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to >>> >>>> replace >>>>>>>>>>>> JIRA but to give contributors more options for issue tracking. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Unless >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>>> are objections, I will create an infra ticket this week. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>
