On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote: > We tell users that try to file issues on the "unsupported" issue tracker > that they've created the issue in the wrong place and point them to the > right issue tracker.
Personally I think that is ok for a short period. Its like driving on a road during construction, you know annoyance is unavoidable. However no one wants to drive on a road that under construction indefinitely. So if we start on this I would like consensus that we plan to transition from Jira to Github in a timely manner. I don't think we should try to figure everything out before we start though. I think it would be good to have a simple starting plan and we hill climb from there in search of a more optimal way of operating. I don't like the idea of enabling github issue with no consensus that the goal is to transition away from Jira. Leaving things in that state for a long period seems bad to me. If we start with the consensus to transition, its possible we may decide not to and that ok. I don't think any action needs to be taken now for that eventuality. We can figure that out as we go during the transition period. > > > On 2/14/18 10:29 PM, Christopher wrote: >> >> Can you elaborate on what kind of human controls you mean? What if a user >> finds the GH issues and creates an issue there? What action should the >> developers take? >> >> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:27 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> I didn't ask for automated controls here -- human controls are fine. >>> >>> I have already said I am -1 on two concurrent issue trackers. If >>> developers want to evaluate them, that's fine. >>> >>> On 2/14/18 10:12 PM, Christopher wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't think we have the ability to lock out non-committers from >>> >>> creating >>>> >>>> new GH issues if we enable them, nor do I think it would make sense to >>>> do >>>> so, since that's a valuable use case to consider during any trial period >>>> before shutting off JIRA. >>>> >>>> As for switching immediately to GH issues for non-primary repo >>>> (-website, >>>> -examples, -docker, etc...) I think that makes sense since those are >>>> already confusing when filed in the JIRA mixed in with the main repo's >>>> issues. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:25 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am OK with committers ONLY using GH issues on all repos (with clear >>>>> guidance as to what the heck the project is doing) or doing a >>>>> full-switch on the other repos. >>>>> >>>>> On 2/14/18 7:00 PM, Mike Miller wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We could do a trial period of GitHub issues for the accumulo sub-repos >>>>>> (accumulo-website, accumulo-examples...) then after a month or two >>> >>> decide >>>>>> >>>>>> to switch or not. That way we won't have duplicate issues or the >>>>> >>>>> confusion >>>>>> >>>>>> of having 2 trackers for one repository. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Mike Walch <mwa...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 I think it makes sense to try out GitHub before shutting off JIRA. >>>>> >>>>> This >>>>>>> >>>>>>> period could be limited to a month or two. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What if we had an interim transition period, tentatively using >>>>>>>> GitHub >>>>> >>>>> to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> determine it's suitability for our workflows, and shut off JIRA >>> >>> later? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 5:51 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> >>> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I disagree with Mike in that I don't find JIRA to be so painful >>>>>>>>> that >>>>> >>>>> it >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> necessitates us changing, but I wouldn't block a move to GH issues >>> >>> if >>>>>>> >>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> turn off our JIRA use. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2/14/18 4:29 PM, Mike Drob wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> @josh - How do you feel about move from JIRA to GH Issues >>> >>> completely? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I believe I already stated -1 the last time this was brought up. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Using two issue trackers is silly. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/14/18 3:30 PM, Mike Walch wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I want to enable GitHub issues for Accumulo's repos. This is not >>> >>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> replace >>>>>>>>>>>> JIRA but to give contributors more options for issue tracking. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unless >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>>> are objections, I will create an infra ticket this week. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
