Christopher,

  IIRC the local build is likely sufficient. It may have been that I failed
to use it in all cases. I do remember in the past merging some PR's then
noticing on the staging site that the links or formatting were not right. I
think Dan's suggested change to the git workflow might also be useful
(Auto-deply to staging on merge to staging branch, auto-deploy to apache.org
on merge to main).

On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 10:03 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> How often would you estimate the diff in the PR is insufficient, and
> you need a full site build to get a sense of how the change is viewed?
> I imagine this might come up with some longer blog posts with a lot of
> complex layout and references to docs, etc., but that doesn't happen
> very frequently. I don't know if there are other times you feel it
> would be helpful or how often those occur.
>
> Aside from local builds, are your concerns mitigated in any way by the
> following?
>
> 1. Code reviewers checking the proposed changes for layout-related
> mistakes before merging, or
> 2. Subsequent commits to correct initial publication mistakes would
> also be streamlined.
>
> (For reference, the local build is documented in the website README at
>
> https://github.com/apache/accumulo-website/blob/main/README.md#local-builds-for-testing
> )
>
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 7:24 PM Dave Marion <dmario...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I find the staging site useful for reviewing changes before publishing.
> > There are some things that are not the easiest to review in a markdown
> > diff. Especially since the markdown is transformed to what is ultimately
> > displayed. I have no issue with streamlining this, I'll just need to
> > remember to be more careful. There is a way to deploy locally IIRC, I'll
> > just have to use that.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 6:34 PM Christopher Shannon <
> > christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 to make the change. I agree that when PRs are merged we generally
> just
> > > want to publish immediately.
> > >
> > > FWIW, this is how we do things for the ActiveMQ website
> > > <https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> and it works fine, we
> just
> > > publish and there is no staging.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 3:49 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Accumulo Devs,
> > > >
> > > > When I first set up the automation using .asf.yaml for Jekyll builds
> > > > to go to the asf-staging branch, I expected us to get a bit more use
> > > > out of the staging site at https://accumulo.staged.apache.org/
> > > > However, that really hasn't happened, and it seems that we basically
> > > > almost always want to publish to the https://accumulo.apache.org
> once
> > > > we've approved a PR against the main branch and have a successful
> > > > Jekyll build.
> > > > Having the staging site is now just an unnecessary extra step to
> > > > publish (that we sometimes forget to do for a while, even though it's
> > > > trivial to run ./_scripts/publish.sh). I'm not sure it's adding any
> > > > value.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps we should just have Jekyll build directly to the asf-site
> > > > branch and get rid of the asf-staging branch?
> > > >
> > > > The one benefit to the staging site is that, in theory, it's a
> > > > conscientious decision to publish. But, I don't think we've ever come
> > > > across any kind of situation where we wanted to stage the site, but
> > > > then didn't immediately want to publish it. So, I'm not convinced
> that
> > > > extra step is adding any value, especially since we're almost always
> > > > making the conscientious decision in GitHub when approving a PR to
> > > > update the site already.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts or opinions on this? I'm leaning slightly towards
> > > > streamlining this.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Christopher
> > > >
> > >
>

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