One more thing:

HornetQ has a lot of good docs and information on the web site.   Is the 
intention to also donate some of that?   If so, we’ll likely need a grant for 
that, but that obviously may be a bit more difficult to identify from git 
hash/tarball sha1/etc….   That wouldn’t need to be done immediately as that 
could be done via a separate grant, but something to consider as well while you 
are chasing things down inside RedHat.  If you only have to do that once, you 
could make it a bit easier on yourself.   :-)

Dan



On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Hiram Chirino <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Clebert ,
> 
> This is a far as I've been able to get with the IP clearance form:
> 
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/ip-clearance/hornetq.xml
> 
> I assumed that what you guys want to donate is the code that currently
> exists on github master (commit
> 90d43fbc158a0e6e3028c7179dbcf984757b88fb).
> 
> Things we still need to do:
> 
> 1) Get Red Hat to file a CCLA with Schedule B filled out
> 2) Get a list of your active committers and make sure they have CLAs filed.
> 3) "Check and make sure that for all items included with the
> distribution that is not under the Apache license, we have the right
> to combine with Apache-licensed code and redistribute"
> 4) Check and make sure that all items depended upon by the project is
> covered by one or more of the approved licenses.
> 5) Run a VOTE thread to accept the code donation.
> 
> I encourage the rest of the ActiveMQ PMC members to help check and
> double check items #3 and #4 before doing #5.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Hiram Chirino <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> I'll start looking into filling out the ip-clearance from.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Gary Tully <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Clebert,
>>> the hornetq specJMS numbers are very impressive so from my perspective
>>> we would love to have the code base.
>>> We can then evaluate how best to combine the relative strengths of
>>> Apollo and HornetQ for the next gen ActiveMQ.
>>> 
>>> Please start the process outlined at [1] and we can look at doing an import.
>>> 
>>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8 July 2014 15:37, Hiram Chirino <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi Clebert,
>>>> 
>>>> That sounds very interesting!  Bringing the HornetQ community into
>>>> ActiveMQ would be exciting for me.  We could collaborate and bring
>>>> together the best features of ActiveMQ, Apollo and HornetQ to create
>>>> an amazing next generation messaging system AND grow our developer
>>>> community at the same time.  Lots of folks have been asking me when
>>>> will ActiveMQ get JMS 2.0 support, so the fact that HornetQ has JMS
>>>> 2.0 support already is big plus in my book!
>>>> 
>>>> I was building up the Apollo codebase to be that next generation
>>>> messaging backbone for ActiveMQ, but perhaps because it's mostly
>>>> implemented using Scala, not too many developers got involved and
>>>> that's a bit of a problem since the 'Apache Way' of building projects
>>>> is more about community than code.  I have been pondering porting
>>>> Apollo to be just plain Java based. Since HornetQ is Java based but
>>>> and has a similar fully async threading architecture like Apollo,
>>>> perhaps this donation will save me lots of work.
>>>> 
>>>> :)
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Clebert Suconic
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> My name is Clebert Suconic, I'm the project lead for the HornetQ JMS 
>>>>> broker
>>>>> (http://hornetq.jboss.org/). The HornetQ team is currently in the planning
>>>>> phase for the next release of the broker and we've been thinking about
>>>>> whether it would make sense for us to collaborate more closely with the
>>>>> ActiveMQ community.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a lot of overlap in the capabilities of the two brokers today and
>>>>> it strikes us that it would be beneficial to both communities for us to 
>>>>> join
>>>>> forces to build one truly great JMS broker rather than spend our time
>>>>> duplicating efforts on both brokers. ActiveMQ has a great community of
>>>>> developers and users and it'd be great to be able to consolidate our work
>>>>> there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My understanding is that the Apollo sub-project aimed to provide a basis 
>>>>> for
>>>>> the next generation of ActiveMQ, addressing some of the current 
>>>>> limitations.
>>>>> Perhaps HornetQ could be an alternative. HornetQ has some good performance
>>>>> and scalability numbers as well as support for JMS 2.0. It already 
>>>>> supports
>>>>> STOMP today and adding support for OpenWire would be straight-forward and
>>>>> would provide continuity for existing clients. Essentially, the goal could
>>>>> be to combine the existing flexibility of ActiveMQ with the performance of
>>>>> HornetQ.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyway, these are just some initial ideas, for now I'm really just
>>>>> interested to know how the ActiveMQ community would feel about a donation 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the HornetQ codebase.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks and best regards,
>>>>> Clebert.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Hiram Chirino
>>>> Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.
>>>> [email protected] | fusesource.com | redhat.com
>>>> skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> http://redhat.com
>>> http://blog.garytully.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Hiram Chirino
>> Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.
>> [email protected] | fusesource.com | redhat.com
>> skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Hiram Chirino
> Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.
> [email protected] | fusesource.com | redhat.com
> skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino

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