Agreed, a clear roadmap must be defined. We should create a new wiki page for an overall ActiveMQ project roadmap that includes info for all the ActiveMQ components (ActiveMQ, ActiveMQ Artemis, ActiveMQ NMS and ActiveMQ CMS). There is already an ActiveMQ Artemis Roadmap wiki page, is this info still relevant/usable ( https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ACTIVEMQ/ActiveMQ+Artemis+Roadmap )?
We need to work openly via the dev@activemq list on this roadmap page so that it is defined in the open, is unambiguous and includes the entire ActiveMQ community. It's very important that we hear from users of each component because these folks have various ActiveMQ components deployed in production and we need to know what is important to them instead of speaking for them. As part of the roadmap discussion, we must also decide if one of the goals for Artemis is still to be a drop-in replacement for ActiveMQ. I know that at one time this was the goal, i.e., allow current ActiveMQ users to drop in Artemis and have everything just continue to work. Is there still value in this goal? Bruce On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:27 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > Like wise in a roadmap for our project we need to be also clear on the > direction for Artemis. > > > > > We definitely dont want to be flip flopping. We had spelt out a roadmap > last year. > > > > > The project already did one big flip flop with apollo. It erodes all end > users trust, and they have no clear direction what they should do. > > > > > So i would like to see the total vision and roadmap in any proposal if a > new roadmap is being presented for the project. So users dont get mixed > messages > > > > > Get Outlook for Android > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 7:17 AM +0100, <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Before any votes. I think it needs a little more discussion to see where > the tide is going. You need to engage people in that discussion. > > > > > Likewise i think a little more than just a line or two is needed for a > proposal, need to be clear who is committing to what and thoughts about > ensuring clients in cms nms and jms all updated and commitment there. > > > > > There is no use in a roadmap with no one committing to the work both > client and broker side, else its just becomes hot air. > > > > > Get Outlook for Android > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 6:14 AM +0100, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Fair enough. > > Anyway, I'm moving forward on 5.15.10 & 5.16.0 releases preparation > reviewing/fixing/merging. > > About the "roadmap", I will start a formal vote. > > Regards > JB > > On 09/07/2019 12:08, Christopher Shannon wrote: > > There was almost no discussion on the proposals for 5.x. Almost no one > > responded and there was no consensus so definitely a -1 from me to > include > > anything about JMS 2.0, cloud features or any other features like that > for > > 5.x on the board report until it is discussed and the community has a > > consensus. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 1:34 AM wrote: > > > >> There was feedback i gave some on that thread. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Get Outlook for Android > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 5:43 AM +0100, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> It's just worth to mention, there's no feedback for now. > >> > >> Anyway, as a community effort, I don't see any blocker. About the > >> releases, it's straight forward as it's maintenance and improvements on > >> existing branches. > >> > >> Regards > >> JB > >> > >> > >> > >> Le 9 juil. 2019 à 02:44, à 02:44, Clebert Suconic a écrit: > >>> I don’t think the community reached a consensus in order to include on > >>> the > >>> report. > >>> > >>> If you want to mention it on the report mention the discussion didn’t > >>> reach > >>> a consensus yet. > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:58 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Bruce, > >>>> > >>>> I would like to contribute with the two e-mails sent about ActiveMQ: > >>>> > >>>> - 5.15.10 & 5.16.0 releases preparation > >>>> - Roadmap proposal (JMS 2.0, JDK 11 support, ...) > >>>> - Cloud friendly features > >>>> > >>>> Unfortunately I don't have the permission to edit the wiki page. > >>>> > >>>> Can you grant permission to my user ? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Regards > >>>> JB > >>>> > >>>> On 08/07/2019 17:40, Bruce Snyder wrote: > >>>>> This is a reminder that your contributions to the Board report are > >>>> urgently > >>>>> needed this week! > >>>>> > >>>>> The report is due in two days and currently there have been zero > >>>>> contributions. Please take a few minutes to report on project > >>> activity > >>>>> here: > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=120728511 > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you! > >>>>> > >>>>> Bruce > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 7:39 AM Bruce Snyder > >>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> It's time once again to create a report for the ASF Board for July > >>> 2019. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Your contribution only takes five minutes, so please report > >>> project > >>>>>> activity for any of the ActiveMQ projects on the wiki page below: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=120728511 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This report is due to by July 10, 2019. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> perl -e 'print > >>>>>> > >>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E);' > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ > >>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ > >>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net > >>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com > >>>> > >>> -- > >>> Clebert Suconic > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > [email protected] > http://blog.nanthrax.net > Talend - http://www.talend.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );' ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
