On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 at 16:21, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I take the fault, no worries. I did the release, but I was swamped with bunch 
> of things and not completed cleanly.
>

In general I have no issue with that, things clearly come up.

Some things can be prioritised though, e.g completing the
delayed/outstanding release process before starting and participating
in new discussion about doing more frequent releases as happened.

> I will fix that.
>
> I think I know well enough the Apache release process on different Apache 
> projects (I can’t count the number of releases I did and still doing) to know 
> that I did bad on the last ActiveMQ one.
> I would like to remind that it’s the first time I messed with the 
> announcement, and I will fix that.

I have actually raised this on multiple previous occasions, and there
have been further occasions inbetween where I haven't.

>
> So, sorry about that and, again I will fix that.
> If you wanna help, you are welcome.

I would agree with Chris that it is preferable or at least typical
that one person completes the process, it's generally far simpler.
That said folks can certainly agree with others to coordinate on
things if needed though. Typically thats done beforehand, or at least
in a timely fashion if unexpected things comes up.

If you dont arrange things with others and/or send mails indicating
you are going to do it, people are generally not going to expect they
are needed to assist with the relatively simple final tasks of the
release, or wont do it to avoid stepping on the original persons toes.
If you instead need help, ask for that rather than reassuing you are
doing it, which likely only delays things further.

I did update the website for 5.16.1 despite this thread last week
though, once I had realised it still wasnt on the site after a week
but a CVE announcement relating to it had already been made since.
With announcements especially though, its awkward to just step in and
do it, as you ought to coordinate first that the original person isnt
also doing it at the same time, and knows not to repeat it later etc,
plus again you had repeated you were doing it, and so I just noted I
was leaving that.

>
> On Apache projects, when I see people having issue (time, personal, …), I 
> propose my help. That’s the way it works IMHO.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> > Le 5 févr. 2021 à 17:12, Christopher Shannon 
> > <christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > With the discussion of trying to do quarterly releases and keep to a
> > schedule I am going to chime in here and bring up the fact that I think
> > that going forward as a project we need to do a much better job at
> > completing the release process. Recently it seems that most releases are
> > vastly delayed in having emails sent and the website updated, etc. I've
> > done a ton of releases for 5.x and I know it's a bit of extra work to do
> > things like update the site, CVE announcements, release announcements, etc
> > but it's all part of doing a release. The process doesn't end when the vote
> > ends and the artifacts are uploaded.
> >
> > Obviously doing a release is voluntary and no one is obligated to do one
> > (but it is appreciated of course). However, that being said, my opinion is
> > if someone chooses to take on the task of doing a release and be the
> > release manager for it they need to complete the entire process in a timely
> > manner and not let it drag on for days and weeks.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 10:54 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Let me check (I did it but maybe forgot to send ;)).
> >>
> >> I will fix that if it didn’t go.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >>> Le 5 févr. 2021 à 16:46, Timothy Bish <tabish...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >>>
> >>> Did I miss the announcement going out?  Seems like it should have been
> >> done
> >>> by now but I don't see it, although website appears to but updated now.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 8:44 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks Robbie,
> >>>>
> >>>> I was about to update website. Thanks for catching this !
> >>>>
> >>>> I will move forward on announcement.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> JB
> >>>>
> >>>>> Le 29 janv. 2021 à 14:38, Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> a
> >>>> écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have just updated the website to change the download page to 5.16.1,
> >>>>> add the 5.16.1 release page (which notes the announced CVE Gary
> >>>>> already updated the site with), and fix the broken links for the
> >>>>> 5.16.0 page. The site should be updated before the prior release is
> >>>>> removed from mirrors, or it breaks the links.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I leave any further tweaks and announcements needed to you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 05:00, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry, I’m late about website update, announcement and CVE publication
> >>>> for ActiveMQ 5.16.1.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I will fix that asap (at least during the week end).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry about that,
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> JB
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> --
> >>> Tim Bish
> >>
> >>
>

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