Thanks for your input on #asfinfra, it's now clearer to me. I reverted my change and fix in the Karaf website.
Regards JB On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 11:29 AM Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The other download pages you linked actually are using the redirect > script, in the template mode as part of generating the download page > and providing it a 'mirrors' list, the same way they probably always > did. They are not manually linking to it, they are using the script > the way they always did, and which Daniel thought you were asking > about its use. > > Those pages probably haven't been changed at all due to the move to > the CDN, which is why they still mention mirrors at all, the script > was just updated and they automatically reflected that, and since the > CDN is the currently the preferred host thats why pages using the > template mode list it as the 'selected mirror'. If infra changes to > some other preferred setup they automatically would list that, and our > page using the script in non-templated mode would automatically get > directed there, whereas if using the CDN links directly our page would > likely just break. Another benefit to using the script is that when > using the CDN link directly it means the links break when the release > shuffles off the CDN when a new one arrives, whereas using the script > the link now keeps working as the script directs to the archive > instead. > > On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 at 10:19, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: > > > > Why other Apache projects are using dlcdn directly then ? > > > > Honestly, it's not clear, and we have two different inputs (I have > > been asked by Sebb on several projects to use directly dlcdn). > > > > Let me double check again as it would mean that a lot of Apache > > projects should use closer.lua instead of dlcdn. > > > > Regards > > JB > > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 11:00 AM Robbie Gemmell > > <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Actually no, it seems they didnt change their stance. The script > > > should still be used. > > > > > > If you go and read the full Slack discussion with Infra last night you > > > will find that they actually later confirm that the closer.lua > > > redirect script is still the way to do it. It seems they misunderstood > > > what you were asking earlier, perhaps as you didnt mention the script > > > at all. Humbedooh's answer even references the output from the script > > > when it is used in the templating mode, i.e he clearly didnt realise > > > what was being asked. > > > > > > https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1648592068105389 > > > > > > Hans Van Akelyen 11:14 PM > > > wasn't the closer script still the mandatory way? I though there was a > > > discussion about that on the lists > > > https://lists.apache.org/list?us...@infra.apache.org:lte=6M:DLCDN > > > Humbedooh 11:14 PM > > > it is, yes > > > Hans Van Akelyen 11:14 PM > > > ack > > > Humbedooh 11:15 PM > > > I think JB's question was about the templating of it all > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 at 09:54, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Agree, infra guys are pretty clear (at least Daniel and Chris were > > > > very clear), but I guess other guys are not "up to date" ;) > > > > > > > > Quick extract from the chat I had with them on Slack: > > > > > > > > fluxo 20 h 38 > > > > you might even say it is, in fact, [preferred] > > > > Humbedooh 20 h 39 > > > > download.apache.org is backup OR for sigs/checksums > > > > > > > > So, it's what I said: dlcdn is the preferred download system for > > > > artifacts, and keep download for sign/hash. > > > > > > > > I will update the website accordingly. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > JB > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:41 AM Robbie Gemmell > > > > <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > They must have changed their stance from the announcement threads then > > > > > where they said the opposite more than once. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 at 06:41, Jean-Baptiste Onofré > > > > > <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > I talked with asfinfra last need to double check: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. They confirm that dlcdn is the URL to use for artifact download > > > > > > 2. They confirm the webpage Robbie linked is not up to date. I > > > > > > talked with > > > > > > Andrew Wetmore (author of this page). He didn’t know dlcdn : he > > > > > > will update > > > > > > the page with my help. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, according to this update, I will do a new pass on ActiveMQ > > > > > > website to > > > > > > use dlcdn where it makes sense and fix signature / hash links. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > JB > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mar. 29 mars 2022 à 18:17, Robbie Gemmell > > > > > > <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> a > > > > > > écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > This seems wrong, I think this should be reverted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are still asked to use the redirect scripts so that infra can > > > > > > > manage resources as needed, and are meant to link to > > > > > > > downloads.apache.org for checksums as the page did. > > > > > > > https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The old links also redirected to the archive whenever the release > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > removed from the CDN, whereas your replacement ones will 404. > > > > > > > Meanwhile as you didnt update all the release template bits there > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > now 2 different styles in use across the site (or even in the same > > > > > > > page in cases) as all the other generated bits are still as they > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robbie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 13:49, <jbono...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git > > > > > > > > repository. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jbonofre pushed a commit to branch main > > > > > > > > in repository > > > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/activemq-website.git > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following commit(s) were added to refs/heads/main by this > > > > > > > > push: > > > > > > > > new fc6da54 Use "new" dlcdn download URLs > > > > > > > > fc6da54 is described below > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commit fc6da54d8ff0f5972364a249803aa521a5ff4105 > > > > > > > > Author: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jbono...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > AuthorDate: Mon Mar 21 14:49:28 2022 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use "new" dlcdn download URLs > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > src/components/artemis/download/index.md | 2 +- > > > > > > > > src/components/classic/download/index.md | 6 > > > > > > > > +++--- > > > > > > > > src/components/cms/developers/creating-distributions.md | 8 > > > > > > > > +++----- > > > > > > > > 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/src/components/artemis/download/index.md > > > > > > > b/src/components/artemis/download/index.md > > > > > > > > index 07fe8bd..dcdfad0 100644 > > > > > > > > --- a/src/components/artemis/download/index.md > > > > > > > > +++ b/src/components/artemis/download/index.md > > > > > > > > @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@ This is the current release of ActiveMQ > > > > > > > > Artemis > > > > > > > Native, which is a sub component > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Release Notes](release-notes-native-1.0.2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Source > > > > > > > > Distribution:|[apache-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip]( > > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?filename=activemq/activemq-artemis-native/1.0.2/activemq-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip&action=download)|[SHA512](https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/activemq-artemis-native/1.0.2/activemq-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip.sha512)|[GPG > > > > > > > Signature]( > > > > > > > https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/activemq-artemis-native/1.0.2/activemq-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip.asc)| > > > > > > > > +Source > > > > > > > > Distribution:|[apache-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip]( > > > > > > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-artemis-native/1.0.2/activemq-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip)|[SHA512](https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-artemis-native/1.0.2/activemq-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip.sha512)|[GPG > > > > > > > Signature]( > > > > > > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-artemis-native/1.0.2/activemq-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip.asc)| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the native layer used by ActiveMQ Artemis for storage. > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > broker binary archives above already include a pre-compiled > > > > > > > version of this > > > > > > > component. > > > > > > > > <br/> > > > > > > > > diff --git a/src/components/classic/download/index.md > > > > > > > b/src/components/classic/download/index.md > > > > > > > > index 58321ca..78e7953 100644 > > > > > > > > --- a/src/components/classic/download/index.md > > > > > > > > +++ b/src/components/classic/download/index.md > > > > > > > > @@ -21,9 +21,9 @@ It is important to [verify the > > > > > > > integrity](#verify-the-integrity-of-downloads) of > > > > > > > > **NOTE**: This is the last planned 5.15.x release. Users > > > > > > > > should upgrade > > > > > > > to the current 5.16.x stream for ongoing releases. > > > > > > > > {% endif %} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Windows|[apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip]( > > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?filename=/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip&action=download)|[SHA512](https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip.sha512)|[GPG > > > > > > > Signature]( > > > > > > > https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip.asc > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > -Unix/Linux/Cygwin|[apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz]( > > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?filename=/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz&action=download)|[SHA512](https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz.sha512)|[GPG > > > > > > > Signature]( > > > > > > > https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz.asc > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > -Source Code > > > > > > > Distribution:|[activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip]( > > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?filename=/activemq/{{release.version}}/activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip&action=download)|[SHA512](https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip.sha512)|[GPG > > > > > > > Signature]( > > > > > > > https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip.asc > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > +Windows|[apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip]( > > > > > > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip)|[SHA512](https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip.sha512)|[GPG > > > > > > > Signature]( > > > > > > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip.asc > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > +Unix/Linux/Cygwin|[apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz]( > > > > > > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz)|[SHA512](https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz.sha512)|[GPG > > > > > > > Signature]( > > > > > > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz.asc > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > +Source Code > > > > > > > Distribution:|[activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip]( > > > > > > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip)|[SHA512](https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip.sha512)|[GPG > > > > > > > Signature]( > > > > > > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip.asc > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > {% break %} > > > > > > > > {% endif %} > > > > > > > > {% endfor %} > > > > > > > > diff --git > > > > > > > > a/src/components/cms/developers/creating-distributions.md > > > > > > > b/src/components/cms/developers/creating-distributions.md > > > > > > > > index c50ba7e..d3ea662 100644 > > > > > > > > --- a/src/components/cms/developers/creating-distributions.md > > > > > > > > +++ b/src/components/cms/developers/creating-distributions.md > > > > > > > > @@ -18,9 +18,7 @@ Under the source dir, we just drop the > > > > > > > > archive files > > > > > > > (*.zip, *.tar.gz, *.zip.asc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The links on our download pages reference an apache CGI script > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > handle the mirrors. This is a quick and dirty way of doing this, > > > > > > > but it > > > > > > > works until we come up with a better way. An example usage of the > > > > > > > link is > > > > > > > the url below: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ > > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/activemq-cpp-1.1-src.zip](http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/activemq-cpp-1.1-src.zip) > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > -The cgi script "closer.cgi" takes a file resource relative to > > > > > > > > www/ > > > > > > > www.apache.org/dist and generates a download page for it with the > > > > > > > list of > > > > > > > mirrors. > > > > > > > > +[ > > > > > > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/activemq-cpp-1.1-src.zip](https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/activemq-cpp-1.1-src.zip) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To see this in action, go to the amq-cpp 1.1 download page > > > > > > > > here: > > > > > > > [activemq-cpp-11-release.md](../../download/11-release) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @@ -62,9 +60,9 @@ The page [ActiveMQ-CPP product version > > > > > > > number](Index/Overview/Download/ActiveMQ- > > > > > > > > ```` > > > > > > > > * Copy the distribution files to **/www/ > > > > > > > www.apache.org/dist/activemq/activemq-cpp/source** on minotaur. > > > > > > > > * Wait 24 hours for the mirrors to be updated with the > > > > > > > > distribution. > > > > > > > > -* Update the links on the download page to reference your > > > > > > > distribution through the CGI script. This simply means that you > > > > > > > precede the > > > > > > > file names with the path [ > > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/](http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/) > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > +* Update the links on the download page to reference your > > > > > > > distribution through the CGI script. This simply means that you > > > > > > > precede the > > > > > > > file names with the path [ > > > > > > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/](https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/) > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > - i.e. > > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/activemq-cpp-1.1-src.zip > > > > > > > > + i.e. > > > > > > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/activemq-cpp-1.1-src.zip > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > * Generate the Doxygen API and place it under /www/ > > > > > > > activemq.apache.org/cms/api_docs. > > > > > > > > * Add the link to the release API to the > > > > > > > [API](Index/Site/NavigationIndex/Site/Navigation/Index/Site/Navigation/api.md) > > > > > > > page. > > > > > > >
