On the logging bit, I would note there are numerous cases of 2.x
releases adjusting stuff in ways that similarly needed specific
handling 'during a normal upgrade procedure' per
https://activemq.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/latest/versions.html.
Even the existing logging bits have clearly had multiple cases of
small upgrade adjustments being required. The handling that would be
needed this time is pretty trivial (create a provided properties file,
only if bringing all old broker config files along as-is and not
'creating' a new broker instance) and so really along very similar
lines to those prior instances.

On Fri, 16 Sept 2022 at 16:05, Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> In my opinion there is a bit of more work to do before 3.0 could be
> released. For example:
>
>  - Remove all deprecated methods, config, etc. (this is not a small amount
> of work)
>  - Update all the config with the new inclusive terms
>
> Personally I don't really see how we could do the logging change on 2.x as
> it's a breaking change. Folks won't be able to follow the normal upgrade
> procedure [1] since it will break their logging configuration.
>
> I also think that anything we want to remove in 3.0 should be deprecated
> for at least 1 release of 2.x.
>
>
> Justin
>
> [1]
> https://activemq.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/latest/upgrading.html
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 8:43 AM Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > hmmm... this is actually pointless.. (the 2.x branch so far).
> >
> >
> > I had to cherry-pick *everything* except to 1 commit:
> >
> > ARTEMIS-3987Removing ActiveMQ Artemis Rest from the codebase - commit
> > e654eba
> >
> >
> >
> > We could definitely release from main right now...
> >
> >
> > and I'm wondering if we shouldn't make the logging change on a 2.x
> > branch.... I don't see much else beyond logging to warrant a 3.x
> > branch (we can certainly make a plan for a 3.x and we could / should
> > start working on it).
> >
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 4:41 PM Clebert Suconic
> > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > @Gary Tully unless you don't consider removing activemq-rest and
> > > changing the logging framework a change big enough to warrant a bump
> > > to 3.0. if the consensus is to keep main as 2.x we can certainly
> > > rename it back and do the release from main. I thought we should
> > > rename it based on these two things.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 11:22 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > maini is already 3.0... removed Rest, and soon the logging change will
> > > > be put it in there... If I release from main now, it will be called
> > > > 3.0, and we will have to do a 4.0 when we bring in the logging
> > > > changes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, I would rather cherry-pick stuff into 2.x
> > > >
> > > > (I will go ahead and remove 2.25.x now)
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:46 AM Gary Tully <gary.tu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > would it make sense to just cut 2.26.0 from main?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 14 Sept 2022 at 02:11, Clebert Suconic
> > > > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am renaming the branch as 2.x (instead of 2.25.x).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some of the candidates to cherry-pick categorize it as an
> > enhancement,
> > > > > > so it would make the release next week to be named 2.26.0 instead
> > of
> > > > > > 2.25.1) (same branch, just promoting it to 2.26 due to an
> > enhancement
> > > > > > being part of it).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > for that reason I am pushing a 2.x branch and I will remove the
> > 2.25.x
> > > > > > branch (after a few days).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:40 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would like to do a 2.25.1 next week (monday or tuesday).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please add any commits into 2.25.x (just pushed a new branch)...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > please use cherry-pick -x on commits from main only. (git
> > cherry-pick
> > > > > > > -x <commit-id>)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Clebert Suconic
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Clebert Suconic
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Clebert Suconic
> >
> >

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