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On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 4:02 PM Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> wrote:

> > ...the business requirement is to use CoreBridges.
>
> I find that a bit strange. Typically business requirements aren't
> specified in terms of a technology. Typically they're expressed in business
> terms (e.g. move retail orders from store A to store B). A Core bridge is
> an implementation specific way to reach a business goal, but I digress.
>
> I did a quick proof-of-concept deployment with 2 instances of 2.38.0. One
> instance had 1,000 bridges connecting to the other instance. The instance
> with the bridges show no growth in heap usage over half an hour or so. It
> was sitting comfortably around 100MB the whole time.
>
> At this point you need to come up with a test-case to reliably reproduce
> the problem you're seeing. I don't want to invest more time into this
> investigation without that. Thanks!
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 8:10 AM Dragan J <draga...@flipside.team> wrote:
>
>> @Clebert Unfortunately, the business requirement is to use CoreBridges.
>> @Justin We tested with 1000 CoreBridges, and a memory leak remains.
>> Here is "the problem suspect" from the Memory Analyzer (a heap dump
>> analyzed):
>>
>>
>> 1,254 instances of
>>
>> “org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl”,
>> loaded by “java.net.URLClassLoader @ 0x400000000” occupy 527,112,720
>> (73.68%) bytes.
>>
>> Biggest instances:
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x40d81e128 - 17,669,864 (2.47%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x409926c00 - 17,643,464 (2.47%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x411b0b320 - 17,624,664 (2.46%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x401fdb948 - 17,614,232 (2.46%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x4099afd28 - 17,606,640 (2.46%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x409895e10 - 17,599,608 (2.46%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x40d9e35e0 - 17,597,288 (2.46%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x409b1a978 - 17,581,512 (2.46%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x409969ad8 - 17,579,656 (2.46%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x40d9e5088 - 17,559,432 (2.45%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x410fa8d80 - 17,552,744 (2.45%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x404db4d38 - 17,547,832 (2.45%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x4197b64f0 - 17,529,272 (2.45%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x409a03058 - 17,521,432 (2.45%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x411b55168 - 17,495,208 (2.45%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x40b0b3c30 - 17,481,480 (2.44%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x4084fe4b0 - 17,478,696 (2.44%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x4195a5dc8 - 17,476,840 (2.44%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x419725708 - 17,472,008 (2.44%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x409a441c8 - 17,453,176 (2.44%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x404d89060 - 17,434,424 (2.44%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x40f875d80 - 17,425,144 (2.44%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x4102071f8 - 17,408,104 (2.43%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x40d9e34f8 - 17,383,576 (2.43%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x409926318 - 17,374,568 (2.43%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x409a7cde8 - 17,318,888 (2.42%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x40aadd150 - 17,285,208 (2.42%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x40d81ba08 - 17,273,880 (2.41%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x40070d068 - 17,223,032 (2.41%) bytes.
>>
>> •org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> @ 0x41bea4538 - 17,146,936 (2.40%) bytes.
>>
>> Most of these instances are referenced from one instance of
>>
>> “org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.remoting.server.impl.RemotingServiceImpl”,
>> loaded by “java.net.URLClassLoader @ 0x400000000”, which occupies 7,008
>> (0.00%) bytes.
>>
>> Thread
>>
>> “org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.remoting.server.impl.RemotingServiceImpl$FailureCheckAndFlushThread
>> @ 0x405ffd540 activemq-failure-check-thread” has a local variable or
>> reference to
>> “org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.remoting.server.impl.RemotingServiceImpl
>> @ 0x401a42658” which is on the shortest path to
>> “org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.remoting.server.impl.RemotingServiceImpl
>> @ 0x401a42658”. The thread
>>
>> org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.remoting.server.impl.RemotingServiceImpl$FailureCheckAndFlushThread
>> @ 0x405ffd540 activemq-failure-check-thread keeps local variables with
>> total size 328 (0.00%) bytes.
>>
>> The stacktrace of this Thread is available. See stacktrace. See stacktrace
>> with involved local variables.
>>
>> Keywords
>> org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.protocol.core.impl.RemotingConnectionImpl
>> java.net.URLClassLoader
>> org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.remoting.server.impl.RemotingServiceImpl
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dragan
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:13 PM Dragan J <draga...@flipside.team> wrote:
>>
>> > Hey Justin,
>> >
>> > Here are the answers:
>> > - Are all the bridges configured the same way? How exactly are they
>> > configured?
>> > Yes, they are configured the same way.
>> > The CoreBridge configuration is attached to
>> >
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VEwj1MoB2tbcCp8R4XeQTzi80Q0dQ606/view?usp=sharing
>> >
>> > - Is the bridge target available when you see this increase happen?
>> > The bridges are connected from the client side to the server (with the
>> > 2.38 Artemis version)
>> > - Are the bridges actually moving messages when you see the increase or
>> > are they idle?
>> > Most of the time, messages are idle.
>> > - Are 3,500 bridges actually required to trigger the increase? Do you,
>> for
>> > example, not see the increase if you use 3,000 bridges? What about
>> 1,000 or
>> > 100?
>> > We tested with 3500 CoreBridges in the development environment, and I
>> > should ask for permission to close some connections.
>> > If you require it, I would ask for that kind of permission.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Dragan
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 2:43 PM Dragan J <draga...@flipside.team>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Can you access the screenshots?
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 10:18 AM Dragan J <draga...@flipside.team>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Sorry, a typo. It's 3,500 CoreBridges
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 10:14 AM Dragan J <draga...@flipside.team>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> @Justin The broker (version 2.38) communicates with other brokers
>> >>>> (version 2.37) through 35,000 CoreBridges. There was minimal message
>> >>>> exchange between them.
>> >>>> Please find the two graphs (from earlier) attached on my Google
>> Drive.
>> >>>> Please let me know if you have an alternative way to share files.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gy8XQi153Fi5Zm9gUdsP_co8fSuh1HjL/view?usp=sharing
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_Fbg8OmWhlsOKfalfIEwKxGIl97a1kQ5/view?usp=sharing
>> >>>>
>> >>>> @Arthur When I tried to perform a GC from JConsole I got the
>> following:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Exception in thread "MemoryPanel.gc" java.lang.SecurityException:
>> User
>> >>>> not authorized to access operation: gc
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>>
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