Hi Chris, My proposal is more to move the console to another repository, and remove it by default from the broker.
Apache Karaf Decanter already provides Grafana plugins for ActiveMQ. So, I agree with Andy and you that it makes sense to have the "new" webconsole powered by plugins on an existing tool. Let me explore this part. Clearly, it would be great to have an alternative to the existing console (especially the spring controller) in ActiveMQ 7. Regards JB On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 2:04 PM Christopher Shannon <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am not going to prevent anyone from creating a new web console if others > want to do it, but I'm personally not a big fan of maintaintaining a web > console at all when there are already tools we could probably use instead, > So I guess that would make me a -0 if this were an actual vote. > > The current console has been a big problem because it is mostly > unmaintained and is a major source of CVEs over the years. The web console > just gets put on the back burner and completely ignored. If we create a new > web console, the same thing probably happens and it just gets stale. Web > technologies go out of date quickly, It seems every time you pick a > javascript framework to build something, the next framework comes along and > that one is obsolete and you get stuck re-writing the app again. > > I do think the current web console should go away (i've been advocating to > get rid of it for years) but I agree more with Andy....why not use > something pre-existing. Ie, HawtIO or Grafana, etc. ? For example, it's > possible to build a plugin for HawtIO or Grafana and many organizations are > already using Grafana and Prometheus for metrics and monitoring so it would > fit naturally. > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 6:28 AM Andy Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > > If you are looking to use Jolokia have you thought of using HawtIO? This is > > what the Artemis console is built on, it would be pretty easy to > > bootstrap something and you get a lot out of the box for free such as > > Authentication etc. Just an idea! > > > > > > Andy > > > > On Wed, 17 Sept 2025 at 06:49, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > I started to write a new web console for ActiveMQ Classic, powered by > > > reactjs and ant.design. > > > > > > More than a more "modern/professional" look'n feel, the purpose is also > > to: > > > 1. Be able to manage multiple brokers in one console > > > 2. Have the web console decoupled from the brokers (interesting for > > > Kubernetes deployment) > > > 3 Integrate with Jolokia (instead of directly JMX) > > > > > > I would like to propose this for ActiveMQ Classic 7, removing the > > > current webconsole (also removing the spring controller dependency, > > > etc). > > > > > > Thoughts ? > > > > > > Regards > > > JB > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For further information, visit: https://activemq.apache.org/contact > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information, visit: https://activemq.apache.org/contact
