On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 4:22 PM Kamil Breguła <kamil.breg...@polidea.com> wrote:
> One more question. Are you sure you want to move Python and Bash from > core? These are the elements that are installed in every environment > because they are required by Airflow, so moving them to a separate > installed package is pointless in my opinion. > > I have no problem with moving them to "fundamentals", but I am not sure if they are really required ? I looked through the code and other than few examples and tests, they are not really "required". Maybe that's enough to keep them in fundamentals, Also Python operator has some dependencies - virtualenv - which is only required for this operator so maybe it's worth to keep it separate from "fundamentals". > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 3:07 PM Kaxil Naik <kaxiln...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I am fine with this list +1 > > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 1:27 PM Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I am all for it Kamil! > > > > > > Super happy to treat Apache projects in the same way as "proprietary" > > > providers :). Anyone else has some other comments ? > > > > > > J. > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:17 PM Kamil Breguła < > kamil.breg...@polidea.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I looked at this list and I'm only worried about two operators. > > > > > > > > airflow.contrib.operators.vertica_to_hive > > > > airflow.contrib.operators.s3_to_hive > > > > > > > > If we want the operators to be grouped according to destination, then > > > > this operator should be in apache package. It is the members of the > > > > Apache community who will care most about this operator being of high > > > > quality. Apache can be treated equally with other large cloud > > > > providers, such as GCP, AWS. I can imagine that a new Apache product > > > > will appear and it will want to promote the same way as products of > > > > cloud providers are promoted. By creating a large number of > > > > integrations that allow you to copy data to its operating range. > > > > There's another cases - building a strong Apache community. As a > > > > member of the Apache community, we should promote Apache products to > > > > ensure that the development of the community is correct, and > therefore > > > > also for integration into our products with other products. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 12:28 AM Jarek Potiuk < > jarek.pot...@polidea.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Just to select the "packages" for this update. Anyone has > objections > > > for > > > > > this structure (details including transfer operators in > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17zA5t2JVxnDdg5Cs1Cg_ > > > > > Mb1GXvGctmesfg2L089QSOk/edit#gid=0? > > > > > > > > > > *Fundamentals (no change)* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > providers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > google > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cloud > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gsuite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marketing_platform > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amazon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aws > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > microsoft > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > azure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cassandra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > druid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hadoop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pinot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sqoop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mysql > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jira > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > databricks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > datadog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dingding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cloudant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jenkins > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > opsgenie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > qubole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > salesforce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > segment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > slack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > snowflake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vertica > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > zendesk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > docker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kubernetes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mssql > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mongodb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mysql > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > openfaas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oracle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > papermill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > postgres > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > presto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > python > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > redis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > samba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sqlite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ssh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > filesystem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sftp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ftp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grpc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > smtp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jdbc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > winrm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 5:47 PM Jarek Potiuk < > jarek.pot...@polidea.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Let me then cancel this vote and I will restart it next week. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah. It's a bit like re-opening the Pandora's box but now that > we > > > know > > > > > > that we can do it, and we are unblocked in moving to google > (which is > > > > now > > > > > > the biggest move in-progress), we can spend more time on getting > > > > better > > > > > > (and more final) consensus. > > > > > > I decided to go through the list from the docs (once again Kamil > - > > > > great > > > > > > that you did it) and prepared this spreadsheet showing the > > > structure. I > > > > > > went through ALL the operators and put them in the right place > where > > > > our > > > > > > current rules place them. > > > > > > > > > > > > After this exercise, I think that makes sense: > > > > > > - put all the stuff except fundamentals in *"providers"* > (everything > > > > > > in "providers" will be potentially backportable). > > > > > > - grouping apache projects under *"apache"* - similar to > > > > > > google/amazon/microsoft (different kind of ownership but still > it is > > > an > > > > > > ownership) > > > > > > - for the rest I think what we can do is really to put the > operators > > > in > > > > > > folders per "service/company" (without sub-packages). That > includes > > > > > > sftp/ssh/ftp etc (should we group [ftp and sftp] or [ssh and > sftp] > > > ??). > > > > > > there is no "ownership" there and no reason to group them. That > will > > > > put > > > > > > "operators/hooks/sensors" at different levels in the directory > tree > > > > but we > > > > > > already have that for fundamentals and I am not too worried about > > > > that. We > > > > > > do not have to have everything at the same level. > > > > > > - I put transfer operators according to the rule where "to" side > is > > > > more > > > > > > important unless the other side is a public protocol (so sftp -> > gcs > > > > and > > > > > > gcs -> sftp both go to google/gcp). I did not have any doubt > where to > > > > put > > > > > > which transfer operator, so this is a good sign: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17zA5t2JVxnDdg5Cs1Cg_Mb1GXvGctmesfg2L089QSOk/edit#gid=0 > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please take a look and express your opinions here so > that we > > > > can > > > > > > have final voting next week (for those who are not yet tired > with the > > > > > > discussion ;)). > > > > > > > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 4:38 PM Kaxil Naik <kaxiln...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Yes, that makes sense. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:22 PM Kamil Breguła < > > > > kamil.breg...@polidea.com> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > In the case of Hadoop, it is published by Apache, so it can > be in > > > > the > > > > > >> > apache directory. This will mimic the grouping presented in > the > > > > > >> > documentation. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > https://airflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/operators-and-hooks-ref.html#software-operators-and-hooks > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:47 PM Kaxil Naik < > kaxiln...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > I think we should keep the vote open at least until mid next > > > week > > > > to > > > > > >> have > > > > > >> > > more thought and inputs on this one. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > In general, I am happy with the approach but > operators/hooks and > > > > > >> sensors > > > > > >> > > shouldn't be a provider. "hadoop" can be its provider and > hdfs > > > > can be > > > > > >> a > > > > > >> > > part of it. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > providers/ > > > > > >> > > google > > > > > >> > > cloud > > > > > >> > > operators > > > > > >> > > hooks > > > > > >> > > sensors > > > > > >> > > gsuite > > > > > >> > > operators > > > > > >> > > ... > > > > > >> > > amazon > > > > > >> > > aws > > > > > >> > > operators > > > > > >> > > ... > > > > > >> > > microsoft > > > > > >> > > azure > > > > > >> > > operators > > > > > >> > > ... > > > > > >> > > hadoop > > > > > >> > > hdfs > > > > > >> > > operators > > > > > >> > > ... > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > We can also define what is a "provider" so we know what to > add > > > in > > > > it > > > > > >> in > > > > > >> > the > > > > > >> > > future. SSH/FTP/SFTP belongs to the same family group. Do we > > > want > > > > to > > > > > >> have > > > > > >> > > separate providers for each one of them ??? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Regards, > > > > > >> > > Kaxil > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 9:08 AM Jarek Potiuk < > > > > jarek.pot...@polidea.com > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > I really like to make everything a provider. That's a > great > > > > idea ! > > > > > >> > This way > > > > > >> > > > everything "backportable" will have to be in "providers" > > > > package. > > > > > >> > Really > > > > > >> > > > nice and clean separation (and less mess in "airflow"). > And we > > > > will > > > > > >> not > > > > > >> > > > have to have any artificial grouping (we can still group > them > > > > at the > > > > > >> > > > documentation level). > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > We do not need backport in name. And I think it's more of > > > > technical > > > > > >> > detail > > > > > >> > > > on naming the package which we can work out while > reviewing > > > PRs > > > > and > > > > > >> we > > > > > >> > can > > > > > >> > > > agree final naming of the released packaged on PMC level > (PMCs > > > > will > > > > > >> > have to > > > > > >> > > > vote on releasing those). > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > The thinking is that it's intention is really to be only > > > > backported > > > > > >> to > > > > > >> > 1.10 > > > > > >> > > > - we are not going (yet) to use the packages in Airflow > 2.*. > > > so > > > > I > > > > > >> > thought > > > > > >> > > > by naming them backport we can express that intent more > > > clearly. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > So let me clarify the structure of folders we are going to > > > have > > > > if > > > > > >> we > > > > > >> > > > follow it (i just added some examples) including the > already > > > > agreed > > > > > >> > changes > > > > > >> > > > from AIP-21: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > providers/ > > > > > >> > > > google > > > > > >> > > > cloud > > > > > >> > > > operators > > > > > >> > > > hooks > > > > > >> > > > sensors > > > > > >> > > > gsuite > > > > > >> > > > operators > > > > > >> > > > ... > > > > > >> > > > amazon > > > > > >> > > > aws > > > > > >> > > > operators > > > > > >> > > > ... > > > > > >> > > > microsoft > > > > > >> > > > azure > > > > > >> > > > operators > > > > > >> > > > ... > > > > > >> > > > operators > > > > > >> > > > sqlite.py > > > > > >> > > > oracle.py > > > > > >> > > > docker.py > > > > > >> > > > hooks > > > > > >> > > > hdfs.py > > > > > >> > > > sqlite.py > > > > > >> > > > sensors > > > > > >> > > > http.py > > > > > >> > > > sql.py > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > J. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 9:43 AM Ash Berlin-Taylor < > > > > a...@apache.org> > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Do we need to include `-backport,`? What was the > thinking > > > > behind > > > > > >> > that? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > I think software and protocol should be merged. I would > also > > > > say > > > > > >> > > > > _everything_ is a provider, so > > > > airflow.providers.ssh.SSHOperator > > > > > >> for > > > > > >> > > > > instance is what I would prefer > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > -a > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On 8 November 2019 08:32:42 GMT, Jarek Potiuk < > > > > > >> > jarek.pot...@polidea.com> > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > >One more day to go. I would love to see some opinions > on > > > this > > > > > >> AIP-21 > > > > > >> > > > > >update > > > > > >> > > > > >:). > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >Executive summary: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >* we will be moving a number of integrations to > > > sub-packages > > > > of > > > > > >> > > > > >airflow. > > > > > >> > > > > >* they will be backportable to 1.10.*. There will be > > > > > >> > > > > >'apache-airflow-[package]-backport' pypi installable > with > > > > python > > > > > >> 3 > > > > > >> > that > > > > > >> > > > > >will make Airflow 2.0 operators/hooks etc. available > with > > > > 1.10* > > > > > >> > > > > >operators. > > > > > >> > > > > >* the current proposal for sub-packages is > > > > > >> > > > > >"protocols/software/providers/" > > > > > >> > > > > >(but if you think merging protocols and software makes > > > sense > > > > - > > > > > >> > please > > > > > >> > > > > >express your opinion > > > > > >> > > > > >* we are not moving "fundamental" operators/hooks etc.. > > > > > >> > > > > >* Airflow 2.0 is still going to be installed as a > single > > > > package > > > > > >> > with > > > > > >> > > > > >all > > > > > >> > > > > >operators (so we are not yet implementing AIP-8) > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >J. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 10:07 AM Jarek Potiuk < > > > > > >> > jarek.pot...@polidea.com> > > > > > >> > > > > >wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> I think all this cases are valid but maybe I was not > > > > > >> super-clear. > > > > > >> > > > > >It's > > > > > >> > > > > >> only the transfer operators that we need to decide > where > > > to > > > > > >> put - > > > > > >> > not > > > > > >> > > > > >> hooks. > > > > > >> > > > > >> Usually the complexity of communication with > particular > > > > > >> storages > > > > > >> > is > > > > > >> > > > > >(or at > > > > > >> > > > > >> least should be) in the Hooks rather than Operators. > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> Operators should be just thin wrappers over the > logic in > > > > the > > > > > >> > hooks. > > > > > >> > > > > >> Hooks are going to stay where they belong - S3 Hooks > in > > > > amazon, > > > > > >> > GCS > > > > > >> > > > > >Hooks > > > > > >> > > > > >> in google.cloud, GoogleSheet Hooks in google.gsuite. > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> Since we actually have mono-repo - this will be no > > > problem > > > > > >> (and no > > > > > >> > > > > >cross > > > > > >> > > > > >> dependencies problem) to have S3 -> GCS operator in > > > > google and > > > > > >> > use > > > > > >> > > > > >hooks > > > > > >> > > > > >> from both google/amazon. > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> I hope this alleviates your concern Daniel ? > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> J. > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >>> What about GoogleSheetsToS3? GoogleSheetsToGCS? > These > > > > you > > > > > >> would > > > > > >> > > > > >put in > > > > > >> > > > > >>> the target, i.e. the storage? But > GoogleSheetsToSftp > > > > would > > > > > >> be in > > > > > >> > > > > >google > > > > > >> > > > > >>> sheets operators file? The complexity, and the > shared > > > > code, > > > > > >> are > > > > > >> > in > > > > > >> > > > > >the > > > > > >> > > > > >>> gsheet component -- not into the storage > destination. > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:46 PM Jarek Potiuk > > > > > >> > > > > ><jarek.pot...@polidea.com> > > > > > >> > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > Hello Airflow Community, > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > The email calls for a vote to update AIP-21 > Changes in > > > > > >> import > > > > > >> > > > > >paths > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > < > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/AIP-21%3A+Changes+in+import+paths > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > with > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > the changes described below. The vote will last > till > > > > > >> Saturday > > > > > >> > 8th > > > > > >> > > > > >2am > > > > > >> > > > > >>> CEST > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > (72 hours). Committers have a binding vote but > > > everyone > > > > from > > > > > >> > the > > > > > >> > > > > >>> community > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > is encouraged to cast an advisory vote. > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > *Summary*: > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > The proposal is to update AIP-21 to move all > non-core > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > operators/hooks/sensor (and related files) to > > > > sub-packages > > > > > >> > within > > > > > >> > > > > >>> airflow > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > (protocols/software/providers) or > > > (software/providers). > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > I am also happy to merge protocols+software, so > if you > > > > have > > > > > >> a > > > > > >> > > > > >strong > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > opinion on it - please state it with your vote > and we > > > > can > > > > > >> > decide > > > > > >> > > > > >based > > > > > >> > > > > >>> on > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > majority. > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > Those packages will be separately released > > > > (schedule/process > > > > > >> > TBD) > > > > > >> > > > > >and > > > > > >> > > > > >>> will > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > be backportable to 1.10.* airflow series, so that > > > users > > > > can > > > > > >> > > > > >install it > > > > > >> > > > > >>> and > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > start using new Airflow2.0 operators in their > Python 3 > > > > > >> Airflow > > > > > >> > > > > >1.10 > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > environments (only Python 3.5+ is supported). > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > We will proceed with migrating the providers > package > > > to > > > > > >> already > > > > > >> > > > > >agreed > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > paths without waiting for the final vote > (following > > > > current > > > > > >> > > > > >version of > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > AIP-21). Since we have working POC - we know the > > > agreed > > > > > >> paths > > > > > >> > will > > > > > >> > > > > >work > > > > > >> > > > > >>> for > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > us. > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > *Previous discussions: * > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > - > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b07a93c9114e3d3c55d4ee514955bac79bc012c7a00db627c6b4c55f@%3Cdev.airflow.apache.org%3E > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > - > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e25ddc546e367a4af3e594fecbd4431959bd5a89045e748e4206e7ff@%3Cdev.airflow.apache.org%3E > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > *More Details*: > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > 1) Information that we are going in the direction > of > > > > AIP-8 > > > > > >> but > > > > > >> > not > > > > > >> > > > > >yet > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > reaching it - focusing on separating out > backportable > > > > > >> packages > > > > > >> > > > > >>> installable > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > in Airflow releases 1.10.* . Airflow 2.0 will > still be > > > > > >> > installed > > > > > >> > > > > >as a > > > > > >> > > > > >>> whole > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > and all the source will be kept in one repo, but > we > > > now > > > > > >> have a > > > > > >> > way > > > > > >> > > > > >to > > > > > >> > > > > >>> build > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > backportable packages for groups of operators. POC > > > > available > > > > > >> > here: > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/6507 > (based on > > > > Ash's > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > https://github.com/ashb/airflow-submodule-test) > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > 2) We move all integrations to new packages > (keeping > > > > > >> deprecated > > > > > >> > > > > >import > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > aliases in the old places). The following split > > > > (according > > > > > >> to > > > > > >> > > > > >>> "stewardship" > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > over the integrations): > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > - *fundamentals* - core of ariflow - they are > > > really > > > > > >> part of > > > > > >> > > > > >Apache > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > Airflow. Stewards - core Airflow team. Not > > > > > >> > > > > >backportable/separated > > > > > >> > > > > >>> out. > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > - *protocols* - are not owned by anyone, they > are > > > > public > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > > > > >the > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > implementation is fully "open". There are no > > > > particular > > > > > >> > > > > >stewards (no > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > need). > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > Users of particular protocols should mainly > > > maintain > > > > > >> those > > > > > >> > and > > > > > >> > > > > >add > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > support > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > for different versions of the protocols. > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > - *software* - both API and software are > controlled > > > > by > > > > > >> > someone > > > > > >> > > > > >>> outside > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > of Airflow (commercial or open-source > project), but > > > > the > > > > > >> > > > > >deployment of > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > that > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > software is "owned" by the user installing > Airflow. > > > > The > > > > > >> > > > > >"stewardship" > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > might > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > be also the users but the controlling party > (Oracle > > > > for > > > > > >> > > > > >example) > > > > > >> > > > > >>> might > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > be > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > interested in maintaining those operators as > well. > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > - *providers* - API/software/deployments are > fully > > > > > >> > controlled > > > > > >> > > > > >by a > > > > > >> > > > > >>> 3rd > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > party. Here most likely "provider" will be > > > > interested in > > > > > >> > > > > >maintaining > > > > > >> > > > > >>> the > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > operators (and for example like Google - > provide > > > > > >> integration > > > > > >> > > > > >>> guidelines > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > < > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rTdJSLCt0eyrAylmmgYc3yZr-_h51fVlnvMmWqhCkY/edit?usp=drive_web&ouid=112320280470690058978 > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > for > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > their hooks/operators/sensors) > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > 3) Between-providers transfer operators should be > kept > > > > at > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > > > > >"target" > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > rather than "source" > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > For example S3 -> GCS should be in "google" > provider, > > > > but > > > > > >> > GCS-> S3 > > > > > >> > > > > >>> should > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > be in "amazon". > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > 4) One-side provider transfer operators should be > kept > > > > at > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > > > > >"provider" > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > regardless if they are target or source. > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > For example GCS-> SFTP or SFTP -> GCS should be in > > > > "google" > > > > > >> > > > > >provider. > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > 5) If in doubt we will discuss individual cases > > > > separately. > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > J. > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > -- > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > Jarek Potiuk > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal > > > Software > > > > > >> > Engineer > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> Jarek Potiuk > > > > > >> > > > > >> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal > Software > > > > > >> Engineer > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > > > > >> > > > > >> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >-- > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >Jarek Potiuk > > > > > >> > > > > >Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal > Software > > > > Engineer > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > > > > >> > > > > >[image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > -- > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Jarek Potiuk > > > > > >> > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software > > > > Engineer > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > > > > >> > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Jarek Potiuk > > > > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer > > > > > > > > > > > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > > > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Jarek Potiuk > > > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer > > > > > > > > > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Jarek Potiuk > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer > > > > > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> > > > > -- Jarek Potiuk Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
