1. Just have a deprecation warning (which it's not even clear if PEP-562
   style will show a nice (!) warning in IDEs or just at run time
   2. I learn to live with from airflow.models.dag import DAG
   3. After we change airflow.models to not import all the sub-modules
   automatically, go back to importing "airflow.models.dag.DAG" into "airflow".
   4. We create a new (abstract) base class that we _can_ import in to the
   airflow module that airflow.models.dag.DAG extends. This could be automated
   by a pre-commit so it is always up to date with the real DAG class
   5. We create a new module of things that are part of the public/dag
   author API, such as airflow.dag (currently just has a "BaseDAG" sub-module
   but that is barely used, and only by the scheduler so could be removed)


Happy with (3) and/or (5)

(1) does not work with Pycharm - it doesn't show deprecation warning.
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On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 10:10 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org> wrote:

> Gah not only that, vscode also ignores __all__ settings which is really
> bad form.
>
> Pycharm at least does respect __all__ for what to show in the module, and
> also respects type stub files (.pyi) when completing constructor args etc.
> In short IDEs are terrible at dynamic languages, but it is what it is.
> So a few options then:
> Just have a deprecation warning (which it's not even clear if PEP-562
> style will show a nice (!) warning in IDEs or just at run time
> I learn to live with from airflow.models.dag import DAG
>
> After we change airflow.models to not import all the sub-modules
> automatically, go back to importing "airflow.models.dag.DAG" into "airflow".
>
> We create a new (abstract) base class that we _can_ import in to the
> airflow module that airflow.models.dag.DAG extends. This could be automated
> by a pre-commit so it is always up to date with the real DAG class
>
> We create a new module of things that are part of the public/dag author
> API, such as airflow.dag (currently just has a "BaseDAG" sub-module but
> that is barely used, and only by the scheduler so could be removed)
>
> Anyone have any strong opinions? I think I'd favour 3, 4 or 5
>
> -ash
> On Feb 22 2020, at 10:50 pm, Kaxil Naik <kaxiln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I tried an example with PEP-562 but the autocomplete didn't work in
> Pycharm
> > and still showed the deprecated function.
> >
> > I agree we should have a deprecation warning before we should have
> changed
> > it. How about we introduce a deprecation warning in the next version
> > (1.10.10) ?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kaxil
> > ᐧ
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 5:35 PM Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I also started to use VSCode in parallel on my Chromebook as this is
> the
> > > best way to get devenv running there (and I believe it's now THE most
> > > popular IDE - including for Python developers). I can check it there as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 6:33 PM Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Right -> the same. Happy to double check with your POC :)
> > > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 6:16 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That's a very good point about IDE's, I'll double check how PyCharm
> > > > behaves (Guessing PyCharm is the most popular one? PyCharm and
> IntelliJ
> > >
> > > are
> > > > the same engine under the hood, right?)
> > > > >
> > > > > -a
> > > > > On Feb 22 2020, at 4:58 pm, Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > My proposal here:
> > > > > > > Add in a _getattr_ based lazy import for DAG to
> airflow/__init__.py
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > module
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am all for it - if we can do it in this way, then it is indeed
> > > > > > better for the users.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do NOT issue a deprecation warning for this.
> > > > > > > Revert the change to all the imports in example dags etc so
> that
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > those do from airflow import DAG.
> > > > > > I would only be for it if the PEP-562 change works fine with IDE
> > > > > > support. Many of our users use IDEs to write their DAGsand they
> can
> > > > > > get confused where to import the DAGs from. If the PEP-562 works
> fine
> > > > > > with the IDEs, and they are smart enough to figure this out, I
> am ok
> > > > > > with that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On a related note - I fully agree with the "clear API" approach
> for
> > > > > > DAG developers. We did not have clear rules for that so far.
> > > > > > Eventually (I think 2.0 is good time for that) we should have a
> clear
> > > > > > statement what really the API is for DAG writers. We should
> issue at
> > > > > > first a deprecation warning and then error if someone tries to
> use
> > > > > > something not explicitly allowed from the DAG. It should not be a
> > > > > > convention ("from airflow.* is allowed in documentation"). It
> should
> > > > > > be enforcement. We can do it in scheduler - as we are parsing the
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > DAGs
> > > > > > on our own and we can find out what imports the users are using.
> We
> > > > > > could even think about adding those deprecations in 2.0. There
> are
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > not
> > > > > > that many things that should be importable from 'airflow.*'. And
> that
> > > > > > should be rather easy - I am playing now with AST parser and it
> is
> > > > > > rather straightforward - we just need to generate list of
> "allowed"
> > > > > > imports .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > (I'm less worried about the internal API airflow users
> internally,
> > > > so airflow.models.TaskInstance vs
> > >
> > > airflow.models.task_instance.TaskInstance
> > > > is okay for me. I find the later uglier but if it doesn't affect
> users I
> > > > don't mind it)
> > > > > > > Ash
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > > Polidea | Principal Software Engineer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > M: +48 660 796 129
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jarek Potiuk
> > > > Polidea | Principal Software Engineer
> > > >
> > > > M: +48 660 796 129
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jarek Potiuk
> > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
> > >
> > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
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> >
> >
>
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