I agree we just need to take care of it as reviewers to inform the PR
authors.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 4:30 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <a...@apache.org> wrote:

> Yeah, that's what I do (or try to. No one is perfect.)
>
> I'm sure it's written down _somewhere_ but I've long since forgotten
> where I picked up that habit from. It's almost an extention to point 5
> in https://chris.beams.io/posts/git-commit/#imperative (which we already
> point to).
>
> -a
>
> On Sep 10 2020, at 4:24 pm, Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com> wrote:
>
> > Also on that, As far as I remember the "unwritten" rule that Ash
> mentioned
> > some time ago as far as I remember the "subject" of the commit is best if
> > it completes the sentence:
> >
> > "This commit when merged ...." ("fixes this and that" for example).
> >
> > And then the context on why we are doing it should follow. For some
> > time I
> > try to follow this quite rigorously with some of the heavier changes :)
> >
> > Do I remember it well Ash?
> >
> > J,
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 5:07 PM Tomasz Urbaszek <
> tomasz.urbas...@polidea.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I agree with Jarek - as long as we cannot enforce it we as reviewers
> >> should do our best to have the description in place.
> >>
> >> On a general note, we should always remember that even if we know each
> >> other and communicate through different channels (slack, calls, etc)
> >> other people won't know the context of the change if there's no
> >> description.
> >>
> >> Tomek
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 4:50 PM Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I am afraid people won't read it anyway. the PR template should be as
> >> > short as possible.  I think this one is really something that should
> >> > be on reviewers. It's one of those things that is hard to automate or
> >> > delegate.
> >> >
> >> > If the reviewer does not understand what the PR from the description,
> >> > it should be the first point to say "please provider context, I am not
> >> > sure what the change does" even before looking at the code IMHO. If we
> >> > all do that - this will be much more effective than writing it in the
> >> > template.
> >> >
> >> > J
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 3:14 PM Ry Walker <r...@rywalker.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Maybe modify the template to include some copy from your email in
> >> it :)
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 6:56 AM Kaxil Naik <kaxiln...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi all,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have brought this topic on multiple occasions earlier too on the
> >> mailing
> >> > > > list. I sincerely request all the contributors and Committers
> >> (including
> >> > > > myself) that we add PR descriptions.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This helps the community understand what the PRs do and abides by
> >> the ASF
> >> > > > motto about "Community above Code", many users lands to the PR
> after
> >> > > > checking change log and having to look at the code to
> >> understand the
> >> PR is
> >> > > > not ideal. Adding descriptions of "most" of the PRs literally does
> >> not take
> >> > > > more than a minute.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We previously had automation around it but we removed because of
> >> small
> >> > > > exceptions where the PR title can be self explanatory.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We should not ignore rules (I am talking about PR template that
> says
> >> " ^
> >> > > > Add meaningful description above ". Again it is fine if the PR
> title
> >> is
> >> > > > self explanatory but not otherwise.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > > Kaxil
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >> >
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> >
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