I would abstract Beam away from end-users. The goal was minimal to no transforms in the generic operator? So, yes, would have a beam dependency, but airflow-like interaction/wrapper (and then the ability to also extend and generate desired transforms).
It sounds like dependency is a concern, which is at least reasonable to at least give pause. On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:38 AM Kamil Olszewski <[email protected]> wrote: > I think the biggest downsides were already mentioned by Tomek: more > dependency management when using apache-beam (plus possibility of conflicts > between dependencies of beam and airflow) and no support for data lineage > solutions. Besides, we create a higher entry threshold by creating a > necessity to understand both beam and airflow concepts. That's why I am > also in favor of considering both generic and beam approaches. Maybe we > will be able adapt some concepts for generic approach from beam without > creating a direct dependency. If no one is against it, I will try to take a > closer look at Beam concepts and create an AIP next week. > > Kamil > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 3:54 PM Daniel Imberman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Ok that’s awesome. I’m also seeing that they have an s3 IO setting [ > > > https://beam.apache.org/releases/pydoc/2.23.0/apache_beam.io.aws.s3io.html > ] > > . Seems that if it’s just a pip install we could start out with just File > > (I imagine on kubernetes this could even work with volume mounts) and S3, > > and then add more as time goes on? Are there any downsides with us tying > > this into Beam? (e.g. if we want to use a storage system not yet > supported > > by beam). > > via Newton Mail [ > > > https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=dx&cv=10.0.50&pv=10.15.6&source=email_footer_2 > > ] > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 1:24 PM, Tomasz Urbaszek <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > I checked it with our Beam team and DirectRunner is supported by > > Python SDK and requires no JVM. That's the main reason I think it's > > worth considering it :) Hard dependency od JVM would be probably a > > no-go for us. > > https://beam.apache.org/documentation/runners/direct/ > > > > Tomek > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 9:45 PM Daniel Imberman > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Oof ok yeah. I hadn't realized that beam had a hard JVM requirement. I > > > think that initially offering a local or block storage based solution > > with > > > easy extensions for users is totally in line with airflow philosophy. I > > > think that offering alternative transfer operators inproviders is a > great > > > idea! > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2020, 9:07 AM Ash Berlin-Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > No strong opinion - but it seems like generic is the easiest for us > to > > > > code (as we have most of it already via hooks?) and adopt (and > doesn't > > > > place a hard requirement on Beam/JVM, even if JVM would only be > > runtime. > > > > Still) > > > > > > > > This is possibly where Airflow has a core TransferOperator, and > > > > providers.apache.beam.operators.BeamTransferOperator? If the "same" > > python > > > > API could be used for both, and it doesn't needlessly complicated > > things. > > > > > > > > -a > > > > > > > > On 6 September 2020 16:20:37 BST, Tomasz Urbaszek < > > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > >Thanks, Ash for pointing to https://pypi.org/project/smart-open/ > This > > > > >one looks really interesting for blob storages transfer! > > > > > > > > > >As stated in the initial design doc I don't think we should focus on > > > > >best performance but rather on versatility. Currently, we have many > > > > >AtoB operators that do not yield the highest performance but do > their > > > > >work and are widely used. > > > > > > > > > >I would say that we should prepare an AIP that will propose two > > > > >approaches: generic vs beam. This will allow us to compare them and > > > > >then we can vote which one is better from the Airflow community > > > > >perspective. > > > > > > > > > >What do you think? > > > > > > > > > >Tomek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 2:42 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <[email protected]> > > > > >wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> For background: in the past I had an S3 to S3 transfer using > > > > >smartopen (since we wanted to split one giant ~300GB file onto > smaller > > > > >parts) and it took about 10mins, so even "large" uses can work fine > in > > > > >Airflow - no JVM required. > > > > >> > > > > >> -ash > > > > >> > > > > >> On 6 September 2020 12:01:24 BST, Tomasz Urbaszek > > > > ><[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >I think using direct runner as default with the option to specify > > > > >> >other setup is a win-win. However, there are few doubts I have > > about > > > > >> >Beam based approach: > > > > >> > > > > > >> >1. Dependency management. If I do `pip install > apache-airflow[gcp]` > > > > >> >will it install `apache-beam[gcp]`? What if there's a version > clash > > > > >> >between dependencies? > > > > >> > > > > > >> >2. The initial approach using `DataSource` concept allowed users > to > > > > >> >use it in any operator (not only transfer ones). In case of > relying > > > > >on > > > > >> >Beam we are losing this. > > > > >> > > > > > >> >3. I'm not a Beam expert but it seems to not support any data > > > > >lineage > > > > >> >solution? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 6:15 AM Daniel Imberman > > > > >> ><[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> I think there are absolutely use-cases for both. I’m totally > fine > > > > >> >with saying “for small/medium use-cases, we come with an in-house > > > > >> >system. However for larger cases, you’ll require spark/Flink/S3. > > > > >That’s > > > > >> >totally in line with PLENTY of use-cases. This would be > especially > > > > >cool > > > > >> >when matched with fast-follow as we could EVEN potentially tie in > > > > >data > > > > >> >locality. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> via Newton Mail > > > > >> > > > > >>[ > > > > > > > https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=dx&cv=10.0.50&pv=10.15.6&source=email_footer_2 > > > > ] > > > > >> >> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 5:11 PM, Austin Bennett > > > > >> ><[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> I believe - for not large data - the direct runner is wholly > > > > >doable, > > > > >> >which > > > > >> >> seems in line with airflow patterns. I have, and have spoken > with > > > > >> >several > > > > >> >> others that have, been productive with that runner. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> For much larger transfers, the generic operator could accept > > > > >> >parameters for > > > > >> >> submitting the compute to an actual runner. Though, imagining > > that > > > > >> >> (needing a runner) would not be the primary use case for such > an > > > > >> >operator. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 11:52 PM Tomasz Urbaszek > > > > ><[email protected]> > > > > >> >wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > Austin, you are right, Beam covers all (and more) important > > IOs. > > > > >> >> > However, using Apache Beam to design a generic transfer > > operator > > > > >> >> > requires Airflow users to have additional resources that will > > be > > > > >> >used > > > > >> >> > as a runner (Spark, Flink, etc.). Unless you suggest using > > > > >> >> > DirectRunner? > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > Can you please tell us more how exactly you think we can use > > > > >Beam > > > > >> >for > > > > >> >> > those Airflow transfer operators? > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > Best, > > > > >> >> > Tomek > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:37 AM Austin Bennett > > > > >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > Are there IOs that would be desired for a generic transfer > > > > >> >operator that > > > > >> >> > > don't exist in: > > > > >> >https://beam.apache.org/documentation/io/built-in/ <- > > > > >> >> > > there is pretty solid coverage? > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > Beam is getting to the point where even python beam can > > > > >leverage > > > > >> >the java > > > > >> >> > > IOs, which increases the range of IOs (and performance). > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 3:24 PM Jarek Potiuk > > > > >> ><[email protected]> > > > > >> >> > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > But I believe those two ideas are separate ones as Tomek > > > > >> >explained :) > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:03 AM Jarek Potiuk > > > > >> ><[email protected] > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > I love the idea of connecting the projects more > closely! > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > I've been helping recently as a consultant in improving > > > > >the > > > > >> >Apache > > > > >> >> > Beam > > > > >> >> > > > > build infrastructure (in many parts based on my Airflow > > > > >> >experience > > > > >> >> > and > > > > >> >> > > > > Github Actions - even recently they adopted the > "cancel" > > > > >> >action I > > > > >> >> > > > developed > > > > >> >> > > > > for Apache Airflow). > > > > >> >https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12729 > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > Synergies in Apache projects are cool. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > J. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 11:16 PM Gerard Casas Saez > > > > >> >> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> Agree on keeping those separate, just intervened as I > > > > >> >believe its a > > > > >> >> > > > great > > > > >> >> > > > >> idea. But lets keep @beam and @spark to a separate > > > > >thread. > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> Gerard Casas Saez > > > > >> >> > > > >> Twitter | Cortex | @casassaez > > > > ><http://twitter.com/casassaez> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 2:14 PM Tomasz Urbaszek < > > > > >> >> > [email protected]> > > > > >> >> > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > Daniel is right we have few Apache Beam committers > in > > > > >> >Polidea so > > > > >> >> > we > > > > >> >> > > > >> > will ask for advice. However, I would be highly in > > > > >favor > > > > >> >of > > > > >> >> > having it > > > > >> >> > > > >> > as Gerard suggested as @beam decorator. This is > > > > >something > > > > >> >we > > > > >> >> > should > > > > >> >> > > > >> > put into another AIP together with the mentioned > > @spark > > > > >> >decorator. > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > Our proposition of transfer operators was mainly to > > > > >create > > > > >> >> > something > > > > >> >> > > > >> > Airflow-native that works out of the box and allows > us > > > > >to > > > > >> >simplify > > > > >> >> > > > >> > read/write from external sources. Thus, it requires > no > > > > >> >external > > > > >> >> > > > >> > dependency other than the library to communicate > with > > > > >the > > > > >> >API. In > > > > >> >> > the > > > > >> >> > > > >> > case of Beam we need more than that I think. > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > Additionally, the ideas of Source and Destination > play > > > > >> >nicely with > > > > >> >> > > > >> > data lineage and may bring more interest to this > > > > >feature > > > > >> >of > > > > >> >> > Airflow. > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > Cheers, > > > > >> >> > > > >> > Tomek > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 9:31 PM Kaxil Naik > > > > >> ><[email protected]> > > > > >> >> > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > Nice. Just a note here, we will need to make sure > > > > >that > > > > >> >those > > > > >> >> > > > "Source" > > > > >> >> > > > >> and > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > "Destination" needs to be serializable. > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 20:00 Daniel Imberman < > > > > >> >> > > > [email protected] > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > Interesting! Beam also could potentially allow > > > > >> >transfers > > > > >> >> > within > > > > >> >> > > > >> > Dask/any > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > other system with a java/python SDK? I think > > @jarek > > > > >> >and > > > > >> >> > Polidea > > > > >> >> > > > do a > > > > >> >> > > > >> > lot of > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > work with Beam as well so I’d love their > thoughts > > > > >if > > > > >> >this a > > > > >> >> > good > > > > >> >> > > > >> > use-case. > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > via Newton Mail [ > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=dx&cv=10.0.50&pv=10.15.6&source=email_footer_2 > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > ] > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 11:46 AM, Gerard Casas > Saez > > > > >< > > > > >> >> > > > >> > [email protected]> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > I would be highly in favour of having a generic > > > > >Beam > > > > >> >operator. > > > > >> >> > > > >> Similar > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > to @spark_task decorator. Something where you > can > > > > >> >easily > > > > >> >> > define > > > > >> >> > > > and > > > > >> >> > > > >> > wrap a > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > beam pipeline and convert it to an Airflow > > > > >operator. > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > Gerard Casas Saez > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > Twitter | Cortex | @casassaez > > > > >> ><http://twitter.com/casassaez> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 12:44 PM Austin Bennett < > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > [email protected]> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > Are you guys familiar with Beam > > > > >> ><https://beam.apache.org>? > > > > >> >> > Esp. > > > > >> >> > > > >> if > > > > >> >> > > > >> > not > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > doing transforms, it might rather > > straightforward > > > > >to > > > > >> >rely > > > > >> >> > on the > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > ecosystem > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > of connectors in that Apache Project to use as > > > > >the > > > > >> >> > foundations > > > > >> >> > > > >> for a > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > generic transfer operator. > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 11:05 AM Jarek Potiuk < > > > > >> >> > > > >> > [email protected]> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > +1 > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 1:35 PM Kamil > Olszewski > > > > >< > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > since there have been no new comments > shared > > > > >in > > > > >> >the POC > > > > >> >> > doc > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > < > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o7Ph7RRNqLWkTbe7xkWjb100eFaK1Apjv27LaqHgNkE/edit > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > for a couple of days, then I will proceed > > > > >with > > > > >> >creating > > > > >> >> > an > > > > >> >> > > > AIP > > > > >> >> > > > >> > for > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > this > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > feature, if that is ok with everybody. > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > Kamil > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:50 AM Tomasz > > > > >Urbaszek > > > > >> >< > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > [email protected] > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > I like the approach as it itnroduces > > > > >another > > > > >> >> > interesting > > > > >> >> > > > >> > operators' > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > interface standarization. It would be > > > > >awesome > > > > >> >to here > > > > >> >> > more > > > > >> >> > > > >> > opinions > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > :) > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Tomek > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 8:10 PM Jarek > > > > >Potiuk < > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > [email protected] > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > I like the idea a lot. 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