Good one Max :). I think eventually we will get to a place where we will be able to manage it via .asf-config (I guess it's coming) and eventually maybe we also can try to get the Triage role for everyone. There is a nice value in being able to use the native Github labelling interface (especially bulk management would be rather difficult to replicate). I will go ahead and create ticket now , and ask INFRA about potential improvements to the process they're working on.
J. On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 6:37 AM Maxime Beauchemin < maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote: > About labeling on Github, I wrote a bot for Superset that enables anyone to > apply labels through commenting using emojis. > > It does other things like auto-labeling organization on an allow-list. We > could teach it new tricks top. > > Generalizing it or porting it to work in other communities should be > very easy. > > I've also been advocating for the ASF to open up the triage role, but was > hoping to use .asf-config.yaml and avoid the voting process... > > Check it out the bot here: > https://github.com/apache-superset/superset-github-bot > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 7:56 PM Vikram Koka <vik...@astronomer.io> wrote: > > > Mine is @vikramkoka > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 7:29 PM Elad Kalif <elad...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > mine is @eladkal > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:33 AM Pete DeJoy <pdejo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I’d love to help as well! Gh handle is @petedejoy > > > > > > > > Thanks for organizing everyone. > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > On Sep 13, 2020, 4:57 PM -0400, Jarek Potiuk < > jarek.pot...@polidea.com > > >, > > > > wrote: > > > > > @Kamil Breguła <kamil.breg...@polidea.com> - I believe we already > > base > > > > it > > > > > on the experience of others (see the discussion before). I think in > > our > > > > > case the will of people and their commitment to do so is far more > > > > important > > > > > than any tools we would like to use (community over code). I think > we > > > > > should first let the people who want to do it try to do the task > and > > we > > > > can > > > > > introduce tools afterwards. No matter what, those people will need > > > > access. > > > > > And then they can propose and choose any tool that make sense to > > them. > > > > > > > > > > Paola, Elead,Vikram (and anyone who wants the triage permission) - > > > please > > > > > state your github users here, so I can create the ticket :) > > > > > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 9:40 PM Kamil Breguła < > > > kamil.breg...@polidea.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that it is worth considering changes in the way of > handling > > > > > > issues. Google has created a tool that can help us the issue and > PR > > > > triage > > > > > > for large open-source projects > > > > > > https://github.com/google/triage-party > > > > > > It was built from the Google Container DevEx team's experience > > > > contributing > > > > > > to popular open-source projects, such as minikube, Skaffold, and > > > > Kaniko. Is > > > > > > this something we should consider? > > > > > > > > > > > > How do other projects handle issues? Maybe we can base our > process > > on > > > > the > > > > > > experience of others. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Kamil Breguła > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 9:09 PM Vikram Koka < > vik...@astronomer.io> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds good! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, I will draft up a proposal for the set of > labels > > > and > > > > > > > milestones that we are using to eliminate duplication to factor > > in > > > > the > > > > > > 2.0 > > > > > > > timeline. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 7:40 AM Jarek Potiuk < > > > > jarek.pot...@polidea.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fantastic initiative! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, currently you have no way to give access to either > of > > > the > > > > > > > > people involved to modify the labels or assign them to > issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But .... Wait for it ... ASF *JUST DAYS AGO* allowed the > > projects > > > > to > > > > > > > assign > > > > > > > > people to the "Triage" role I was talking about: > > > > > > > > https://infra.apache.org/github-roles.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please send me your github issues Vikram, Paola, Elad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will then create an INFRA ticket to add you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, there is no possibility yet to self-manage it, > > so > > > > it has > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be done through an INFRA ticket and it might take a few days > to > > > > > > process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else willing to join our Triage squad :) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 2:31 AM Vikram Koka < > > > vik...@astronomer.io> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paola and Elad, I would like to help on this one as well. > > Let's > > > > get > > > > > > > > > together and nail this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I spent a couple of hours looking through the open Github > > > issues > > > > > > > earlier > > > > > > > > > today to look for some patterns. > > > > > > > > > Currently, we have 576 open and "not invalid" issues. > > > > > > > > > Out of these, we have around: > > > > > > > > > - 270 open feature requests, which span the full gamut of > > > > > > > functionality, > > > > > > > > > from user visible to internal CI process. > > > > > > > > > - 220 bugs including some going back to March as noted by > > > Tomasz. > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > seem to be a fair number of these which need some > > > categorization > > > > at > > > > > > > > least. > > > > > > > > > - 70 docs issues. These are categorized sometimes as > > > "area:docs" > > > > and > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > other times as "kind:documentation". > > > > > > > > > - 50 already assigned to milestones: Either Airflow 2.0.0 > or > > > > > > 10.10.13 > > > > > > > > > - 80 provider related issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There was a set of 6, created in March 2019 which was > rather > > > > > > peculiarly > > > > > > > > > categorized as "Waiting for AIP". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These don't all add up the total, since there are issues > > which > > > > are > > > > > > > > > categorized (correctly) in multiple labels. However, we do > > seem > > > > to > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > proliferation of labels which would be useful to cleanup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overall, I do think some time spent on documenting the use > of > > > > labels, > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > categorizing and cleaning up the issues would be very > useful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy to help take care of this. Let's do it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vikram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:00 PM Jarek Potiuk < > > > > > > > jarek.pot...@polidea.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 7:12 PM Kaxil Naik < > > > > kaxiln...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah I agree and looks like Paola and Elad have already > > > > > > volunteered > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > triage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Kaxil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 18:09 Tomasz Urbaszek < > > > > > > turbas...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The main reason I suggested the stale bot was the > lack > > of > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > widespread prioritization/reviewing of issues which > > > > results in > > > > > > > big > > > > > > > > > > > > pile of never addresses issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that triage access is a better answer to this > > > > problem > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > engaging more people will help us all. I'm +1 for > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 5:00 PM Paola Peraza Calderon > > > > > > > > > > > > <pa...@astronomer.io> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paola here from Astronomer. I've been working at > > Astro > > > > since > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > early > > > > > > > > > > > > days in both Customer and Product-centric roles and > > have > > > of > > > > > > > course > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > closely following all-things Airflow for a long time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I happened to read this conversation around GH > Issue > > > > > > management > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > figure I can step up to volunteer as someone familiar > > > with > > > > the > > > > > > > > > project > > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > > > > > > Product Ops principles, if that'd be helpful. I could > > > > always > > > > > > > start > > > > > > > > > by: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Cleaning up/commenting on duplicate issues (or > > close > > > > given > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > > > > > permissions) > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Commenting on stale issues and investigate > whether > > > > they're > > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > problem or already addressed > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Asking questions as needed if issues need > > > > clarification or > > > > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > > > scoping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this would be helpful, I'm more than happy to > get > > > > involved > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > pick > > > > > > > > > > > > at these over time. It'll likely be a journey that > > never > > > > ends, > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > > > > a compelling need to keep the community momentum > going. > > > > Let me > > > > > > > > know - > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > great to meet you all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paola > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2020/09/10 11:56:22, Tomasz Urbaszek < > > > > > > turbas...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, we have about 582 open issues on > Github. > > > The > > > > > > > oldest > > > > > > > > > > opened > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in March. Do you think we should consider using > > stale > > > > bot > > > > > > as > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PRs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think that issue that is open since March > > is > > > > "so > > > > > > > > > important" > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > keep it still open. This would also automate the > > > > process of > > > > > > > > > > verifying > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the issue (the author will be notified and asked > > for > > > an > > > > > > > > update). > > > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the issue is something that we want to keep open > we > > > > should > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > use the "pinned" label. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other projects use it and I don't see anything > > wrong > > > > with > > > > > > > it. I > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say that 30d is a good period for keeping an > issue > > > > open. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bests, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jarek Potiuk > > > > > > > > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software > > > > Engineer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > > > > > > > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jarek Potiuk > > > > > > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software > > Engineer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > > > > > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Jarek Potiuk > > > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer > > > > > > > > > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> > > > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/> > > > > > > > > > > -- Jarek Potiuk Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
