I added the point about logging to the AIP.

I'd love to hear more thoughts on how the SEMVER process might work for
those numerous packages - Ash I'd love to understand what scheme you think
is the best.

One more comment for my options - I really like the point that Vikram made
about the "lack" of the relation between the provider packages and "airflow
core".
So I really like the idea (no matter which one we choose eventually) of
prefixing the version with 2.*.

J.


On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:01 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>> > We have to make sure that we have no dependencies core -> providers
>>
>> How do we handle writing logs to S3/GCS/Azure Blob storage, which
>> depends on the hook from the provider to work?
>>
>
> Good point. I will make sure that I address it in the PR as well. I think
> those should only work when
> the corresponding package his installed. And raise a warning otherwise.
>
>
>>
>> > Versioning proposal is CALVER with MAJOR AIRFLOW prefix (2.YYYY.MM.DD)
>> > for all 2.* Airflow releases. In the future 3.YYYY.MM.DD for all 3.*
>> > releases. Backwards incompatibility is only allowed between MAJOR
>> > Airflow Versions
>>
>> I'd personally prefer use to use SemVar to allow us to make the freedom
>> to make backwards-incompatible changes to a provider (within the same
>> major Airflow release). This is what HashiCorp have done with their
>> terraform providers modules.
>>
>
> This is detail that we can still decide on independently on voting. But in
> my opinion this
> one is super difficult (procedurally and regarding involvement of release
> management time
> and effort needed) if we want to release each provider separately.
>
> But I am open to it as well if you help to define how SEMVER
> implementation should look like and
> if we come up that does not require a heavy overhead of release management
> that cannot
> be automated.
>
> What is your proposal for the implementation of SEMVER in this case?
>
> I can see the following options (but if you have other proposal - I am
> happy to hear them):
>
> a) 2.0.N for all providers released in 2.0. But then according to semver
> those
>  would be just bugfixes and no new features added) so technically it's not
> really SEMVER -
>  it's basically the same as 2 + CALVER but with incrementing number
> instead of date.
>
> b) 2.0.X.Y incrementing X always when new features are added and Y's when
> there are bugfixes?
>
> c) 2.X.Y for all 2.* providers with X increasing when there are new
> features and Ys when there are bugfixes.
>
> I think, if we go for the b) c) who, when (and based on what criteria)
> will be deciding
> whether X or Y should be increased for those 60+operators? Would that be
> contributors committing the code or release manager releasing those
> packages?
> Note that the latter literally requires to review those all packages and
> decide on a
> case-by-case basis. I would never want to do it personally on regular
> basis.
>
> What do you think Ash? Which option do you propose?
>
> J.
>
>
>
>> -ash
>>
>> On Sep 13 2020, at 9:28 pm, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello Everyone,
>> >
>> > Last week, at the Airflow 2.0 meeting the people involved made a
>> decision
>> > that we are releasing Airlow 2.0 as a set of separate "core" and
>> > "providers" packages - similarly to the 1.10 "backport providers"
>> packages.
>> >
>> > This decision effectively implements the "spirit" of the AIP-8
>> > proposed by
>> > Tim Swast in January 2019. It's not an exact implementation - we've
>> learned
>> > a lot since the original proposal and the final implementation is
>> slightly
>> > different - rather than "multiple" repositories we stay with the
>> mono-repo
>> > approach, but we aim to achieve many of the goals targeted by the AIP-8.
>> >
>> > I updated the original AIP-8
>> > <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=100827303
>> >
>> > to reflect those changes.
>> >
>> > This is the formal Vote for this proposal. It follows the "vote on code
>> > modification" policy of the ASF:
>> >
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#votes-on-code-modification
>> >
>> > We need three +1 votes for the proposal to proceed. All committers
>> > have a
>> > binding vote.
>> >
>> > The vote will last 72 hours, which means that it ends on Wed 16th Sep
>> 2020,
>> > 10:30 PM CEST
>> >
>> > Consider this my binding +1.
>> >
>> > J
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jarek Potiuk
>> > Polidea | Principal Software Engineer
>> >
>> > M: +48 660 796 129
>> >
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Jarek Potiuk
> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
>
> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
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>
>

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