Hi Nathan,

Thanks a lot for your input and it is indeed a valid use case. This can be
done either keeping TaskGroup as a UI concept or bringing it into the
backend. I'm curious to hear what others think.


Cheers,
Kevin Y

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 12:57 AM Nathan Hadfield <nathan.hadfi...@king.com>
wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
>
>
> A quick piece of input from our recent experiences of working with
> TaskGroup is that we often have dependencies across DAGs that require
> waiting upon the completion of all the tasks in a group.  At the moment,
> you basically have two options:
>
>
>
>    1. Create a sensor task in a DAG for every task in the group
>    2. Create a Dummy task after the group that a sensor waits on
>
>
>
> So, I would certainly like TaskGroups to have some notion of run status as
> to better enable downstream decision making.
>
>
>
> I’ve already created a feature ticket to try to add some kind of TaskGroup
> Sensor but perhaps this can also form part of the wider discussions here.
>
>
>
> https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/14563
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Nathan
>
>
>
> *From: *Kevin Yang <yrql...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 05:21
> *To: *dev@airflow.apache.org <dev@airflow.apache.org>
> *Subject: *[DISCUSS] TaskGroup in Tree View
>
> Hi team,
>
>
>
> We are very glad to see the introduction of TaskGroup in Airflow 2.0 and
> really like it. Thanks to Yu Qian and everyone that contributed to it. To
> continue moving towards the goal of replacing SubDagOperator with
> TaskGroup, I'd like to kick off a discussion on bringing TaskGroup into
> Tree View.
>
>
>
> *Why do we need TaskGroup in Tree View?*
>
> For owners of larger DAGs, say a DAG with 500 tasks, Tree View is the
> preferred view for its loading speed and simpler representation.
> SubDagOperator is often used to provide an isolated view into a subset of
> tasks in such large DAGs. To replace such SubDag use cases, TaskGroup will
> need to support Tree View.
>
>
>
> *What should TaskGroup look like in Tree View?*
>
> We didn't have a conclusion during the 1st iteration of TaskGroup. In
> Airbnb, we use SubDag mostly for providing a zoom in view on a small set of
> tasks and the SubDag zoom in feature worked well for us. We'd like to see
> TaskGroup provide a zoom in option for both Graph View and Tree View but
> also like to hear everyone's thoughts.
>
>
>
> *What needs to be in TaskGroup and what doesn't?*
>
> TaskGroup started off as a pure UI concept while SubDag is something more,
> e.g. it has its own DagRun thus isolated scheduling decisions, it can serve
> as a logical isolation layer that holds different sets of DAG level params,
> etc. While we only use SubDag as a UI feature, I think it would be a good
> opportunity for us to discuss what should be TaskGroup and what shouldn't.
>
>
>
> Please don't hesitate to share your thoughts.
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kevin Y
>

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