"separate POM" -> Separate pyproject.toml :D,, I've been in too many
discussions in Apache Software Foundation about java dependencies and POM
files and Maven (ough!)  it seems :D

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 12:22 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:

> Hello here,
>
> As discussed last week on slack, I prepared a comprehensive document
> describing the current state of extras in Airflow (or at least my view on
> it :) ).
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e1T3u34bqo7yYSJVvq1NlEJJhA5_hUNXOXo7J6KFg_0/edit?usp=sharing
>
> The document describes the current state of extras as we use in Airflow 2
> (and same usage so far in Airflow 3) - split into development and user use
> cases (which roughly splits to "standard" and "editable" installation. It
> describes the different behaviour of extras in "standard" and "editable"
> environments (via hatch_build.py hooks) as well as potential future and
> very recent developments that might impact the way we will think about
> extras for Airflow 3.
>
> For example the recent development about - accepted last week PEP 735 that
> might change the way we will define development groups. But tools need to
> catch up.
>
> Also the move to "uv workspaces" might (and will) change some of the ways
> we interact with Airflow - especially for development, which might render
> some of the extra use cases obsolete, but IMHO we need to do some
> preparatory work (and further splitting providers to per-provider
> sub-directories and each provider having a separate POM is a prerequisite
> for that).
>
> There are also some other potential changes and future work we can do (all
> marked in yellow) that might impact the way we think about and define our
> extras.
>
> Finally - at the end - it contains a summary of all the use-cases (I found
> 6 in total) how extras are currently used - user and development use cases.
>
> I know that there are voices that maybe we should get rid of some of the
> extras - so having summary of the use cases might be helpful to discuss it:
>
> * whether the use case is actually "useful"
> * whether we have some way to replace the use of extras to achieve similar
> behaviour
>
> I propose - if you have detailed comments to the document - let's discuss
> it there (everyone has commenter access by following the link). If you have
> some proposals on what to do after reading and discussing details - we
> should discuss any proposals in this thread
>
> Have a nice read :)
>
> J.
>
>
>

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