"I prefer D, but it won't pass"

I think we are all pretty honest and transparent here. If someone **wants**
to cast a vote to D - they absolutely can.
If they decided not to - no matter what their motivation is - they decided
not to. It's their decision and what counts is an actual vote not the
motivation. This is a vote, not a discussion - at this stage only the
actual vote counts.

And again - if someone decides to change their vote - they still can.

J,


On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 8:24 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:

> And if someone did not understand that they can vote on multiple options -
> there is still 24 hrs to change the vote BTW. This is absolutely no problem
> to change the vote until the end of the vote.
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 8:23 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think Constance described it well in the announcement.
>>
>> > You can vote any fractional between -1 and +1 for any of the options,
>> and
>> the option with the highest sum (even if it's a negative) wins. This is a
>> procedural vote, meaning that -1 is not considered a veto.  Everyone is
>> encouraged to vote, but only PMC members and Committer's votes are
>> considered binding.
>>
>> And yes I think it's OK to vote on multiple options. For example (+1 D)
>> means +1 on D, 0 all others - I.e. I have no opinions on other options.
>> At least this is what my +1 B meant.
>>  If one thinks that one (or more) of those options are unacceptable -
>> they can vote with -1 on all those.
>>
>> Note that this is precisely what Constance described - that there might
>> be an option with negative total sum.
>>
>> And it's perfectly fine for people to vote +1 or +0.9 on multiple options
>> - it's not "who wins" but "which option wins". I don't absolutely care who
>> "wins" here, but which option has the most support.
>>
>> J.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 8:09 PM Daniel Standish via dev <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Interestingly it seems a lot of people were like "I prefer D, but it
>>> won't
>>> pass"
>>>
>>> Maybe it would actually...
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 11:08 AM Daniel Standish <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > So far, this is my tally:
>>> >
>>> > A
>>> > TP (binding)
>>> > (.5) sumit
>>> >
>>> > B
>>> > jarek (binding)
>>> > vincent (binding)
>>> > niko (binding)
>>> > jens (binding)
>>> > ankit
>>> > pankaj (binding)
>>> > tamara
>>> > (0.5) collin
>>> > (0.9) wei (binding)
>>> > (0.5) brent (binding)
>>> >
>>> > C
>>> > kaxil (binding)
>>> > pavankumar (binding)
>>> > sumit (binding)
>>> > josh (binding)
>>> > bas (binding)
>>> > pierre (binding)
>>> >
>>> > D
>>> > ramit
>>> > collin
>>> > ryan (binding)
>>> > wei (binding)
>>> > brent
>>> >
>>> > By my count it is
>>> >
>>> > B - 6.4
>>> > C - 6
>>> > D - 3
>>> > A - 1.5
>>> >
>>> > If you only include the bindings and if the bindings are correct
>>> >
>>> > I have not voted yet.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 11:04 AM Daniel Standish <
>>> > [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Question:
>>> >>
>>> >> whose votes are binding on this vote?  committers?  PMC members?
>>> everyone?
>>> >>
>>> >> Also, many have voted for 2 options and with fractions.
>>> >>
>>> >> To me the fractional voting makes sense with a binary up-or-down vote.
>>> >> It's meant to signal strength of support for a motion.  But with
>>> multiple
>>> >> choice, I'm not sure it makes as much sense.
>>> >>
>>> >> E.g. I could vote +1 for C and -1 for B -- then in effect my vote
>>> counts
>>> >> 2 times!  But that doesn't sound right to me.
>>> >>
>>> >> For multiple choice votes, ranked choice voting probably makes the
>>> most
>>> >> sense.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 10:52 AM Brent Bovenzi via dev <
>>> >> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> +1 Option D
>>> >>> +0.5 Option B
>>> >>> (binding)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 1:42 PM Pierre Jeambrun <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > Option C (binding)
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 6:07 PM Bas Harenslak via dev <
>>> >>> > [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > > Option C (binding)
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > On 22 Oct 2025, at 16:10, Josh Fell via dev <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> >>> > > wrote:
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > +1 for option C (binding)
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 9:39 PM Sumit Maheshwari <
>>> >>> [email protected]
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > wrote:
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > +1 for Option C (binding)
>>> >>> > > +0.5 for Option A (binding)
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 6:32 AM Tzu-ping Chung via dev <
>>> >>> > > [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > My ideal scenario would be dag when we describe an object (using
>>> “a
>>> >>> dag”
>>> >>> > > or “the dag” etc), and Dag as the class name, like any ordinary
>>> noun.
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > Since that would probably too much work for no real value (as
>>> many
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > already
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > suggested), I’m going to put +1 on option A since it matches best
>>> >>> how my
>>> >>> > > mind wants to perceive the noun.
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > TP
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > On 21 Oct 2025, at 03:02, Constance Martineau via dev <
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > Hi everyone,
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > As discussed in this email thread
>>> >>> > > <
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/h4b0vjfr4dkbyhrkoxpfjo67s38yr0hh>,
>>> >>> I
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > am
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > formally calling a vote to finalize how we refer to Airflow
>>> workflows
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > in
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > writing. The vote will run for roughly 72 hours, and last until
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > Thursday
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > October 23rd at 7:00 pm UTC (countdown link
>>> >>> > > <https://countingdownto.com/?c=6656693>)
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > The options are:
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > >  - Option A: Prefer dag in docs; use DAG only when referring to
>>> the
>>> >>> > >  class/import
>>> >>> > >  - Option B: Prefer Dag in docs; use DAG only for the
>>> class/import
>>> >>> > >  - Option C: Keep DAG as the standard everywhere (status quo)
>>> >>> > >  - Option D: Prefer Dag in docs, use Dag for class/import and
>>> alias
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > DAG
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > >  (for backcompat reasons)
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > You can vote any fractional between -1 and +1 for any of the
>>> options,
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > and
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > the option with the highest sum (even if it's a negative) wins.
>>> This
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > is a
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > procedural vote, meaning that -1 is not considered a veto.
>>> Everyone
>>> >>> is
>>> >>> > > encouraged to vote, but only PMC members and Committer's votes
>>> are
>>> >>> > > considered binding.
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > Please see email thread
>>> >>> > > <
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/h4b0vjfr4dkbyhrkoxpfjo67s38yr0hh>
>>> >>> for
>>> >>> > > additional context.
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > Why this matters: We’ve had inconsistent terminology across docs
>>> and
>>> >>> > > repeated PR debates over capitalization. Standardizing will make
>>> our
>>> >>> > > writing clearer, strengthen the Airflow brand, and give external
>>> >>> > > stakeholders a single reference to follow.
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > Best,
>>> >>> > > Constance
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > >
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