+1 binding.

Thanks & Regards,
Amogh Desai


On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 7:36 AM Srabasti Banerjee <
[email protected]> wrote:

> +1 (non binding)
> For the questionnaire, it will be good to have hover signs with
> descriptions for new/less technical/business users taking the survey. This
> will help guide those who are not familiar with the Airflow internals, to
> be able to make educated choices rather than random guesses. Hardcore
> technical questions should be optional so as to encourage all to attempt
> the survey till the end, since inputs from UI/non technical aspects are
> also good from the community.
>
> Happy to volunteer to be a "test taker" to ensure the verbage and
> terminology is easy to understand for new users to Airflow:)
>
> Warm Regards,
> Srabasti Banerjee
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 7:33 AM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > The original word used was “allowed”. I think the actors are not just
> > “allowed” to redact PII when publishing, they “should” redact it instead.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 2:39 PM Wei Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > What do you mean :) ? Could you elaborate please Wei?
> > >
> > > The original word used was “allowed”. I think the actors are not just
> > > “allowed” to redact PII when publishing, they “should” redact it
> instead.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Wei
> > >
> > > > On Dec 7, 2025, at 7:38 PM, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Just say "within 2 months" to be more explicit.
> > > >
> > > > Indeed.
> > > >
> > > >> Also, I think we "should" redact PII instead.
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean :) ? Could you elaborate please Wei?
> > > >
> > > > I think we need to be very precise here. Privacy is important for the
> > > ASF -
> > > > for example recently CSP (Content Security Policy) have been made a
> lot
> > > > stricter by the ASF and we had to remove some of the links to
> external
> > > > parties (youtube videos now are strictly "click to play" and youtube
> > > > thumbnails are downloaded now from our site  to protect privacy. And
> > for
> > > > example it is impossible to embed (I just tried with release
> calendar)
> > > for
> > > > example Google Calendar in a wiki page hosted at cwiki.apache.org -
> > > mostly
> > > > because ASF does not want to "force" people into their data being
> > > gathered
> > > > by 3rd-parties by **just** looking at ASF pages.
> > > >
> > > > My understanding is that this is really a requirement that the PII
> data
> > > is
> > > > only gathered to protect the survey from being abused and nothing
> else
> > > and
> > > > we won't even see it (neither whoever runs the survey will collect
> them
> > > for
> > > > other purposes than fraudulent mis-use detection and protection. The
> > PII
> > > > are very hard to not get on incoming requests - for example full
> client
> > > IP
> > > > address is considered PII) and you will **get** it when someone
> makes a
> > > > request, you also need to use it in case you have spam or AI slop to
> > > filter
> > > > out obvious mis-use. And to be honest we as PMC don't even want to
> deal
> > > > with it. Also, we might ask the privacy team of ASF to review the
> > survey
> > > > setup before it is run in case there is no suitable ASF
> infrastructure
> > > > solution.
> > > >
> > > >> Does this imply the PMC should have a call for sponsors before the
> end
> > > of
> > > > the calendar year?
> > > >
> > > > Might be a good idea to indeed formalise the calendar?
> > > > Yep I think it's a good idea to announce we want to run it and ask
> for
> > > > potential sponsors. Say June - open it up with September to run it -
> > > > November to finish and January next year to announce results ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 6:12 AM Wei Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> + 1 binding
> > > >>
> > > >> A few nitpicks and questions
> > > >>
> > > >>> * The full, raw results for the survey should be published in full
> > > >>  each year for the entire community to read and benefit from.
> Publish
> > > >>  must be timely within 1-2 months after closure. The only
> > > >>  scrubbing/redacting allowed is of PII data or obvious fraudulent
> > > >>  answers.
> > > >>
> > > >> Just say "within 2 months" to be more explicit. Also, I think we
> > > "should"
> > > >> redact PII instead.
> > > >>
> > > >>> * If any entity wants to support/sponsor the survey and take the
> cost
> > > >>  connected with running, processing the survey - we will welcome
> such
> > > >>  sponsorship. This needs to be an explicit request after a call for
> > > >>  sponsors to the PMC and PMC has to approve it
> > > >>
> > > >> Does this imply the PMC should have a call for sponsors before the
> end
> > > of
> > > >> the calendar year?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> Wei
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Dec 7, 2025, at 1:03 AM, Shahar Epstein <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> +1 binding - I think that these principles should be visible in the
> > > wiki
> > > >> :)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Shahar
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2025, 00:09 Jens Scheffler <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi everyone,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> It has been pointed out that the way we run our yearly community
> > > survey
> > > >>>> happens by inertia, without any formality to it. Now while I’m
> never
> > > one
> > > >>>> for too much formality, some here would be helpful.
> > > >>>> We discussed it in the Airflow PMC and with the outcome we now
> > raise a
> > > >>>> vote on the devlist in public. Proposal is we formally accept the
> > > >>>> following:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> * A yearly Airflow Community survey should be run, and it should
> run
> > > >>>>   proximate to the end of the calendar year.
> > > >>>> * The intent of this survey is to understand the use of the
> software
> > > >>>>   and features used in order to understand where to focus future
> > > >>>>   development on and which features might be deprecated. But not
> > > >>>>   limited to. We are also interested in perceived quality and
> > biggest
> > > >>>>   problems for which we even might need to elaborate a solution
> > space.
> > > >>>> * The questions for which are discussed on the dev list. We should
> > > >>>>   have a final lazy consensus to the dev list (or vote if we don’t
> > see
> > > >>>>   consensus) on the questions before the survey is published. No
> > > >>>>   formal vote is required before finalising the questions or
> > starting
> > > >>>>   the survey. It would be good to keep a majority of questions
> > stable
> > > >>>>   such that we can see changes year-over-year.
> > > >>>> * Questions must not involve collecting PII data. One exception is
> > the
> > > >>>>   optional collecting of email addresses for delivering sponsor
> > > >>>>   incentives (i.e. training course, credits. See further on in
> this
> > > >>>>   document)
> > > >>>> * There is no formal position or person responsible for generating
> > the
> > > >>>>   questions. As with everything ASF related, all individuals are
> > given
> > > >>>>   the opportunity to participate, but their influence is based on
> > > >>>>   publicly earned merit.
> > > >>>> * The PMC will promote the survey via airflow.apache.org website
> -
> > > >>>>   including the banners on the website, and Apache Airflow Social
> > > >>>>   Media, Slack and similar channels.
> > > >>>> * The survey should be conducted in a way such that not one person
> > or
> > > >>>>   company gets more information than the others.
> > > >>>> * The results should be processed/analysed and a summary published
> > on
> > > >>>>   the Airflow website (and thus subject to normal PR review
> process
> > by
> > > >>>>   committers and the PMC).
> > > >>>> * The full, raw results for the survey should be published in full
> > > >>>>   each year for the entire community to read and benefit from.
> > Publish
> > > >>>>   must be timely within 1-2 months after closure. The only
> > > >>>>   scrubbing/redacting allowed is of PII data or obvious fraudulent
> > > >>>>   answers.
> > > >>>> * In case there is no appropriate survey platform run by the ASF
> > > >>>>   available for under the “apache.org” URL, the entity or people
> > > >>>>   running the survey will be free to host it elsewhere.
> > > >>>> * If any entity wants to support/sponsor the survey and take the
> > cost
> > > >>>>   connected with running, processing the survey - we will welcome
> > such
> > > >>>>   sponsorship. This needs to be an explicit request after a call
> for
> > > >>>>   sponsors to the PMC and PMC has to approve it. We will also
> leave
> > > >>>>   freedom for the entity running the survey in the way to attract
> > wide
> > > >>>>   audience (for example offering credits or free products as long
> as
> > > >>>>   they do not suggest being PMC endorsed; and to refer Apache
> > Airflow
> > > >>>>   according to the nominative fair use.
> > > >>>> * In cases of such sponsorship, the entity will be listed as
> sponsor
> > > >>>>   permanently  in the published Survey results - this is in
> > accordance
> > > >>>>   with the  targeted-sponsorship policy of the ASF. We will inform
> > > >>>>   Fundraising of the ASF about this being a formal targeted
> > > >>>>   sponsorship by the PMC.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This is just writing down what we do already (with the exception
> of
> > > the
> > > >>>> last two points which are a new addition and a more formal
> approach
> > to
> > > >>>> the ad-hoc basis right now).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Jens on behalf of the Airflow PMC.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This email is calling a vote for the procedure, which will last
> for
> > 5
> > > >>>> days - which means that it will end on December 8th, 2025 22:00
> UTC.
> > > >>>> Everyone is encouraged to vote, although only PMC members and
> > > >>>> Committer's votes are considered binding. Members of the community
> > are
> > > >>>> encouraged to vote with "(non-binding)".
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Consider this my +1 (binding) vote.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Please vote accordingly:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> [ ] +1 approve
> > > >>>> [ ] +0 no opinion
> > > >>>> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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