Yeah. But with this rate of development with Claude - we will have it all
done before they even start :D. I literally Claude-Coded the entire thing
yesterday afternoon.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 10:55 AM Aritra Basu <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Jarek what's your opinion on taking up some of these improvements as part
> of Gsoc? I think it's separated from airflow enough that it won't overwhelm
> new entrants, also can make a relatively large project out of it if planned
> well?
> --
> Regards,
> Aritra Basu
>
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2026, 3:12 pm Jarek Potiuk, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Basically, try to keep the content in these files to an absolute
> minimum
> > focusing on information that cannot be inferred/discovered, one-line code
> > patterns, disallowed behaviours, links to guides.
> >
> > Absolutely. And as usual.. PRs are welcome :)
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 10:40 AM Nathan Hadfield <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > On the topic of CLAUDE/AGENTS.md files, there was a rather interesting
> > > paper published recently about their effectiveness.
> > >
> > > https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.11988
> > >
> > > The TD;LR is
> > >
> > >
> > >   *
> > > LLM-generated context files reduce success rates (0.5-2%) while
> > increasing
> > > inference cost by 20-23%
> > >   *
> > > Developer-written files help slightly (+4%), but verbose content that
> > > duplicates existing docs is pure cost
> > >   *
> > > Codebase overviews don't improve navigation: agents find relevant files
> > in
> > > the same number of steps regardless
> > >
> > > Basically, try to keep the content in these files to an absolute
> minimum
> > > focusing on information that cannot be inferred/discovered, one-line
> code
> > > patterns, disallowed behaviours, links to guides.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Nathan
> > >
> > > From: Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Monday, 2 March 2026 at 09:29
> > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Active approach to fighting with AI slop (while
> > > keeping maintainers in the driving seat)
> > >
> > > This Message Is From an External Sender
> > > This message came from outside your organization.
> > >
> > >
> > > Also: I am thinking of more tools like that - especially one that will
> > > allow us to auto-triage issues and use an LLM to speed up issue
> > > classification for provider releases (once suggested by Shahar I think)
> > and
> > > many more things.
> > >
> > > The quality of good models is amazing. I am literally stunned by what
> > > Claude Code can do today - I tried it few months ago and the difference
> > is
> > > night and day. I literally entirely Claude-Coded the whole thing
> > > without writing a single line of code myself.
> > >
> > > And since we have at the very least 6 months of free Claude Code Max
> for
> > > maintainers of big OSS projects
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://claude.com/contact-sales/claude-for-oss__;!!Ci6f514n9QsL8ck!mS8qTovb9go2kfJwcUGGry6yWpOOcdvB2IXJYYHcOEam-B2gTQQ_dcYm19lzIlgAKCiUragw0XqPXOJZ$
> > > as of 3 days (liteally day
> > > after I paid for my first month)!!!) - Airflow definitely qualifies, so
> > all
> > > core maintainers can get it regardless if their employees already pay
> > them
> > > for it.  So if you have not done it yet - apply :D.
> > >
> > > J.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 10:22 AM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > maybe we should use the new LLMOperator form common.ai as an
> option
> > > > (hehe)!
> > > > Just joking, of course.
> > > >
> > > > Crossed my mind :D
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 10:20 AM Pavankumar Gopidesu <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> This is really cool, Jarek. Thanks for sharing. A tool like this is
> > > >> definitely necessary given the current volume of AI slope and PRs
> > being
> > > >> submitted without proper context.
> > > >>
> > > >> maybe we should use the new LLMOperator form common.ai as an option
> > > >> (hehe)!
> > > >> Just joking, of course.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >> Pavan
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 9:17 AM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > I think that we could later automate at least the dry-run
> > execution
> > > of
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > script, along with Slack notification for highly-suspected
> > issues/PRs.
> > > >> > Then, it would be easier for maintainers to react fast when
> needed.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Yes. I would like to run it manually—ideally with several
> volunteer
> > > >> > maintainers - for a while to see how it works, improve and iterate
> > and
> > > >> > possibly add more quality gates. When we have more confidence we
> > could
> > > >> run
> > > >> > it automatically for some parts or even the whole process
> eventually
> > > >> > (especially for high-confidence/sensitive stuff), keeping the
> > > sensitive
> > > >> > parts with Human-In-The-Loop.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > But also (and this is my hope) - similarly to `breeze ci upgrade`
> it
> > > >> might
> > > >> > turn out that the process is so efficient and "nice" to follow
> that
> > we
> > > >> > could continue trigger it manually, regularly, perhaps with a
> > > rotational
> > > >> > maintainer handling the triage. I think comments and actions
> coming
> > > >> from a
> > > >> > human maintainer have more value than those from a bot—even if the
> > > human
> > > >> > action is merely confirming what an automated system or LLM
> > proposed.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > J.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 10:04 AM Shahar Epstein <[email protected]
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Amazing stuff Jarek!
> > > >> > > I think that we could later automate at least the dry-run
> > execution
> > > of
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > script, along with Slack notification for highly-suspected
> > > issues/PRs.
> > > >> > > Then, it would be easier for maintainers to react fast when
> > needed.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Looking forward for new AI-based features in breeze in
> particular,
> > > and
> > > >> > > Airflow in general :)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Shahar
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2026, 04:59 Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > While preparing for consensus on the assignment policy, I
> > created
> > > PR
> > > >> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/62585__;!!Ci6f514n9QsL8ck!mS8qTovb9go2kfJwcUGGry6yWpOOcdvB2IXJYYHcOEam-B2gTQQ_dcYm19lzIlgAKCiUragw0bHQEs-s$
> > .
> > > This PR adds a new
> > > >> > command
> > > >> > > > to
> > > >> > > > Breeze, `breeze issues unassign`, which unassigns anyone who
> is
> > > not
> > > >> a
> > > >> > > > committer or collaborator.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I want this to be the first of several Breeze commands I plan
> to
> > > >> add to
> > > >> > > > help manage the AI overhead and burden on maintainers.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I got inspired bu Hugo van Kamerade's (my friend, Python
> release
> > > >> > manager)
> > > >> > > > tool
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://hugovk.dev/blog/2026/gh-triage/__;!!Ci6f514n9QsL8ck!mS8qTovb9go2kfJwcUGGry6yWpOOcdvB2IXJYYHcOEam-B2gTQQ_dcYm19lzIlgAKCiUragw0TLnNyxs$
> > .
> > > He added the `gh`
> > > >> > plugin
> > > >> > > > that helps him manage spam coming to Python. I hope we can
> have
> > > very
> > > >> > > > similar set of commands and regular process of performing
> > cleanup
> > > >> with
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > > issues/prs we are getting.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > BTW. I am using Claude Code to add those commands (so this is
> a
> > > bit
> > > >> > like
> > > >> > > > using AI to fight AI slop). But in a smart way.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > In our case we have `breeze` that we are already using for `ci
> > > >> upgrade`
> > > >> > > by
> > > >> > > > maintainers and I see no reason why we could not use our own
> CLI
> > > to
> > > >> > make
> > > >> > > us
> > > >> > > > far more efficient with assessing and quickly and efficiently
> > > >> > processing
> > > >> > > > incoming spam.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Starting with AGENTS.md that describes what we expect (and
> > > instructs
> > > >> > > agents
> > > >> > > > to make good PRs) and changing our assignment process - I
> think
> > we
> > > >> > should
> > > >> > > > proceed to implement step-by-step handling of the incoming
> > > traffic:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > a) Quickly assess how well PRs implement our expectations,
> point
> > > out
> > > >> > > > problems, and close them
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > b) automatically telling the collaborators what is wrong with
> > > their
> > > >> PRs
> > > >> > > if
> > > >> > > > they are incomplete (for example when tests are failing, or
> when
> > > >> they
> > > >> > > need
> > > >> > > > a rebase)
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > c) automatically responding to issues that they are incomplete
> > and
> > > >> need
> > > >> > > > more information
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > d) Allow filtering by area (so that maintainers focusing on a
> > > >> > particular
> > > >> > > > area can periodically review only the areas they are intereste
> > > >> > > > e) all that with some AI assistance (I plan to imlpement
> > > integration
> > > >> > with
> > > >> > > > some modern AI LLMs so that it is seamless for those
> maintainers
> > > who
> > > >> > > > already use some of those (including Cloud Code, GH Copilot
> > > >> > (maintainers
> > > >> > > > can apply for free access there), Codex and any models someone
> > > >> prefers
> > > >> > -
> > > >> > > > including local models).
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > f) all that with maintainer in the driver's seat—we won't do
> > those
> > > >> > things
> > > >> > > > fully automatically - but we will get reviewable action
> proposal
> > > in
> > > >> > bulk
> > > >> > > > that the maintainer will be able to accept, modify or reject.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > .... more...
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > All that will be open to contribution and I will be happy to
> > > leading
> > > >> > > > introduction and disseminating those CLI options between
> > > >> maintainers to
> > > >> > > > make sure those get incorporated in our daily work - relieving
> > > some
> > > >> of
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > > burden we are all experiencing and sharing it between people.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I think this is a viable approach to address our current
> burden
> > > >> > > > proactively, rather than waiting for others to act.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > This is also somewhat experimental since we haven't seen it
> done
> > > >> > before,
> > > >> > > so
> > > >> > > > suggestions, comments, ideas and PRs that could help us become
> > > more
> > > >> > > > efficient and better maintainers are most welcome.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Let me know what you think.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > J.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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