IMHO, Bigtop stack mpack was planned for trunk only. It could even merge
with a separate branch till it's stable.

-1 on managing branch as we have already discussed:

On 2022/07/24 5:01, Battula, Brahma Reddy wrote:
  -1 on development in branch.
  >   It is not worth for maintaining the branch if the modules is so small
   >  and barely updated as explained here.
   >  It should not conflict to existing code.
    >  I feel I must check the code before check-in based on this thread.


Sure, Viraj or me can show the code to you.

On 2022/09/26 2:29, Brahma Reddy Battula wrote:
IMHO, Bigtop stack mpack was planned for trunk only. It could even merge
with a separate branch till it's stable.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 5:02 PM Masatake Iwasaki <iwasak...@oss.nttdata.com>
wrote:

+1

On 2022/09/21 11:12, 吴治国 wrote:
I think we have enough to go on with Kengo’s proposal,
Currently we don’t have enough developers(and I’m not willing to) to
maintain a stack on our own like BDP.

Sure, here's my proposal:

* Stack name: "BIGTOP"

    - The same name as the existing one [1]
    - Because it deploys the packages generated by Bigtop
    - The existing stack should be replaced with it, because that is
based on Bigtop 0.8 and too old to use now
    - No concern about infringing others' trademark

* Component/folder name: "bigtop-select"

    - Consistent naming convention with the existing tools such as
"bigtop-groovy", "bigtop-jsvc", "bigtop-utils" [2]
    - If it sounds too simple and a bit unclear, a more descriptive name
might be an option, for example "bigtop-ambari-stack-selector"

* Script name: "bigtop-select"

    - Consistent with the stack name
    - No concern about infringing others' trademark

[1]:
https://github.com/apache/ambari/tree/release-2.7.6/ambari-server/src/main/resources/stacks/BIGTOP/0.8
[2]:
https://github.com/apache/bigtop/tree/master/bigtop-packages/src/common <
https://github.com/apache/bigtop/tree/master/bigtop-packages/src/common>

Best Regards,
Zhiguo Wu

On Sep 16, 2022, at 08:44, Masatake Iwasaki <iwasak...@oss.nttdata.com>
wrote:


May be we can name it as bdp-select. Or (bgp-select)
-1 as we already discussed.
Thanks for your feedback, I would definitely honour it. As you are not
open for discussion and asked us raise the PR hence you thought of
discussing on the PR. What will be your final suggestion on this..?

I'm -1 on the name like bdp-select or bgp-select as we discussed.
Feel free to open PR with appropriate module name.

On 2022/09/05 16:30, Battula, Brahma Reddy wrote:
Hi @Masatake Iwasaki,
     -1 as we already discussed.
Thanks for your feedback, I would definitely honour it. As you are not
open for discussion and asked us raise the PR hence you thought of
discussing on the PR. What will be your final suggestion on this..?
@Roman Shaposhnik
I just gone through the following jira[1] where you brought ambari to
bigtop. Looks stack-select is not included, how it was maintained.?
I thinking we should have one stack which can support for upgrading
the existing the HDP deployed clusters. Even I can see somebody asking on
bigtop[2].
If bigtop is not right place, shall we include in ambari..?  Please
let me know your thoughts on this. This blocks the 2.7.7 release.
Note :  There is on-going ambari mpack which might take some more
time. Even upgrades will take some time.
1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-709
2. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-3651
Regards,
Brahma Reddy Battula
On 01/09/22, 6:39 AM, "Masatake Iwasaki" <iwasak...@oss.nttdata.com>
wrote:
      >  May be we can name it as bdp-select. Or (bgp-select)
      -1 as we already discussed.
      On 2022/09/01 4:43, Battula, Brahma Reddy wrote:
      > Ok, thanks Viraj.
      >
      > Hopefully you can place here like all other how it's
maintained. Let me know any help required on this. May be we can name it as
bdp-select. Or (bgp-select)
      >
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      >
      >
      > On 30/08/22, 5:26 AM, "Viraj Jasani" <vjas...@apache.org>
wrote:
      >
      >      Masatake, Brahma,
      >
      >      Hopefully I should be able to create Jira and PR in
Bigtop. Will let you
      >      know once ready for review. Thanks
      >
      >
      >      On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 9:22 AM Masatake Iwasaki <
iwasak...@oss.nttdata.com>
      >      wrote:
      >
      >      > Please file a JIRA and submit a pull request if you want
to show the code
      >      > and get feedback.
      >      > There is nothing I want to discuss off the record.
      >      >
      >      > On 2022/08/23 18:48, Battula, Brahma Reddy wrote:
      >      > > @Masatake Iwasaki ,@Viraj Jasani , @Kengo Seki and
others, can we get
      >      > the final conclusion on this..?
      >      > >
      >      > > Please let me know your availability, Can have one
call to discuss on
      >      > this..
      >      > >
      >      > >
      >      > > On 24/07/22, 1:31 AM, "Battula, Brahma Reddy"
<bbatt...@visa.com.INVALID>
      >      > wrote:
      >      > >
      >      > >      >  -1 on development in branch.
      >      > >       >   It is not worth for maintaining the branch
if the modules is
      >      > so small
      >      > >        >  and barely updated as explained here.
      >      > >        >  It should not conflict to existing code.
      >      > >         >  I feel I must check the code before
check-in based on this
      >      > thread.
      >      > >
      >      > >
      >      > >      Sure, Viraj or me can show the code to you.
      >      > >
      >      > >      Can we've call on this Friday/Thrusday if that
works..?
      >      > >
      >      > >
      >      > >      On 11/07/22, 11:54 AM, "Masatake Iwasaki" <
      >      > iwasak...@oss.nttdata.com> wrote:
      >      > >
      >      > >          > Sure, we can havemodule name like
bigtop-distro-select.
      >      > >          > Initially we'll do this separate branch.
      >      > >
      >      > >          -1 on development in branch.
      >      > >          It is not worth for maintaining the branch if
the modules is so
      >      > small
      >      > >          and barely updated as explained here.
      >      > >          It should not conflict to existing code.
      >      > >          I feel I must check the code before check-in
based on this
      >      > thread.
      >      > >
      >      > >          Masatake Iwasaki
      >      > >
      >      > >          On 2022/07/11 8:23, Kengo Seki wrote:
      >      > >          >> As there are different opinions on this
and took long time,
      >      > just to brainstorm all the possibilities and pitfalls.
      >      > >          >
      >      > >          > Oh, I interpreted your words "conclude" and
"finalize" as you
      >      > were
      >      > >          > going to make a final decision.
Brainstorming is welcome, of
      >      > course.
      >      > >          > (But I'm not so sure if all people
concerned could join, due
      >      > to time
      >      > >          > difference and their schedule, etc.)
      >      > >          >
      >      > >          >> Can you suggest, how the changes will be
also.. like folder,
      >      > where you suggest to keep this...?
      >      > >          >
      >      > >          > Sure, here's my proposal:
      >      > >          >
      >      > >          > * Stack name: "BIGTOP"
      >      > >          >
      >      > >          >    - The same name as the existing one [1]
      >      > >          >    - Because it deploys the packages
generated by Bigtop
      >      > >          >    - The existing stack should be replaced
with it, because
      >      > that is
      >      > >          > based on Bigtop 0.8 and too old to use now
      >      > >          >    - No concern about infringing others'
trademark
      >      > >          >
      >      > >          > * Component/folder name: "bigtop-select"
      >      > >          >
      >      > >          >    - Consistent naming convention with the
existing tools
      >      > such as
      >      > >          > "bigtop-groovy", "bigtop-jsvc",
"bigtop-utils" [2]
      >      > >          >    - If it sounds too simple and a bit
unclear, a more
      >      > descriptive name
      >      > >          > might be an option, for example
"bigtop-ambari-stack-selector"
      >      > >          >
      >      > >          > * Script name: "bigtop-select"
      >      > >          >
      >      > >          >    - Consistent with the stack name
      >      > >          >    - No concern about infringing others'
trademark
      >      > >          >
      >      > >          > [1]:
      >      >
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fapache%2Fambari%2Ftree%2Frelease-2.7.6%2Fambari-server%2Fsrc%2Fmain%2Fresources%2Fstacks%2FBIGTOP%2F0.8&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cbbattula%40visa.com%7Caf797ca5e4694d7c174a08da8bb69b8b%7C38305e12e15d4ee888b9c4db1c477d76%7C0%7C0%7C637975913668870137%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=9BsY7Ho%2FS9Ogep35Yt0iiv0TXUULMbR2Ml25NP%2FX3gE%3D&amp;reserved=0
      >      > >          > [2]:
      >      >
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      >      > >          >
      >      > >          > Kengo Seki <sek...@apache.org>
      >      > >          >
      >      > >          > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 3:19 AM Battula,
Brahma Reddy
      >      > >          > <bbatt...@visa.com.invalid> wrote:
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >>>   Technical decisions shouldn't be done
on other places
      >      > than public mailing lists,
      >      > >          >>>   as described in the "Open
Communications" section of [1]
      >      > and [2].
      >      > >          >>   > So we should conclude the discussion
in this mailing
      >      > list.
      >      > >          >>   > (And with my poor English, I'm not so
confident to catch
      >      > up with your
      >      > >          >>    > fluent talk ;)
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >> I believe , I knew the apache way which
you mentioned. We
      >      > are not going conclude anything which comes to bigtop
other than this
      >      > mailing list.
      >      > >          >> As there are different opinions on this
and took long time,
      >      > just to brainstorm all the possibilities and pitfalls.
Hence  asking let's
      >      > have  call so that we can brainstorm. Even after call,
everything will be
      >      > published what we discussed.
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >> I think, whiteboarding will help to catch
up with you.
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >> You all the think "bigtop-select" will be
best option
      >      > right..? Can you suggest, how the changes will be also..
like folder, where
      >      > you suggest to keep this...?
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >> And if the name represents the stack which
we are going to
      >      > deploy should fine I feel.. (if it's not BDP, may be
      >      > OBDP:OpensourceBigDataPlatform.)
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >> @Viraj Jasani and others any thoughts..?
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >> On 10/07/22, 11:03 AM, "Kengo Seki" <
sek...@apache.org>
      >      > wrote:
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >>      > Looks we had so much discussed
here, Let's try to
      >      > conclude. Can we've one call on this and finalize this..?
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >>      Technical decisions shouldn't be done
on other places
      >      > than public mailing lists,
      >      > >          >>      as described in the "Open
Communications" section of
      >      > [1] and [2].
      >      > >          >>      So we should conclude the discussion
in this mailing
      >      > list.
      >      > >          >>      (And with my poor English, I'm not so
confident to
      >      > catch up with your
      >      > >          >>      fluent talk ;)
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >>      > FYI. Even looks bigtop used some
where also..
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >>      Bigtop is ASF's trademark as you can
see in the "Apache
      >      > Bigtop®
      >      > >          >>      software" section of [3].
      >      > >          >>      So it doesn't have the risk of
trademark infringement.
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >>      [1]:
      >      >
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apache.org%2Ftheapacheway%2Findex.html%23what-makes-the-apache-way-so-hard-to-define&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cbbattula%40visa.com%7Caf797ca5e4694d7c174a08da8bb69b8b%7C38305e12e15d4ee888b9c4db1c477d76%7C0%7C0%7C637975913668870137%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=JNFdxHAV%2B180ytJ84yCiX2MF1c3WptpCHkMMq2VIAvI%3D&amp;reserved=0
      >      > >          >>      [2]:
      >      >
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      >      > >          >>      [3]:
      >      >
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      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >>      Kengo Seki <sek...@apache.org>
      >      > >          >>
      >      > >          >>      On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 4:11 AM
Battula, Brahma Reddy
      >      > >          >>      <bbatt...@visa.com.invalid> wrote:
      >      > >          >>      >
      >      > >          >>      > Looks we had so much discussed
here, Let's try to
      >      > conclude. Can we've one call on this and finalize this..?
      >      > >          >>      >
      >      > >          >>      > FYI. Even looks bigtop used some
where[1] also..
      >      > >          >>      > 1.
      >      >
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      >      > >          >>      >
      >      > >          >>      >
      >      > >          >>      > On 08/07/22, 8:06 PM, "Kengo Seki" <
sek...@apache.org>
      >      > wrote:
      >      > >          >>      >
      >      > >          >>      >     Thank you for your explanation,
Brahma.
      >      > >          >>      >     CRH (abbreviation of "CHINA
REDOOP HYPERLOOP"
      >      > [1]) is supposed to be a
      >      > >          >>      >     trademark of Redoop, so they
can name the script
      >      > crh-select without
      >      > >          >>      >     problem.
      >      > >          >>      >     But regarding BDP for example,
I can easily find
      >      > products that have
      >      > >          >>      >     the same name [2][3][4] as you
already mentioned,
      >      > so I'd like to
      >      > >          >>      >     recommend bigtop-select for
avoiding unnecessary
      >      > trouble.
      >      > >          >>      >     Or, a single and more general
word just like
      >      > conf-select may be less
      >      > >          >>      >     troublesome than bdp. How about
"stack-select",
      >      > for example?
      >      > >          >>      >
      >      > >          >>      >     [1]:
      >      >
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      >      > >          >>      >     [2]:
      >      >
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      >      > >          >>      >     [3]:
      >      >
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      >      > >          >>      >     [4]:
      >      >
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      >      > >          >>      >
      >      > >          >>      >     Kengo Seki <sek...@apache.org>
      >      > >          >>      >
      >      > >          >>      >     On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:51 AM
Battula, Brahma
      >      > Reddy <bbatt...@visa.com> wrote:
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >Do you mean that you're
going to name the
      >      > module (same as "component"
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >in the Bigtop
terminology, I think)
      >      > bigtop-distro-select,
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >and still the script in
question
      >      > bdp-select? If so, is there any
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >reason that the script
must be that name?
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >(No offence, I just want
to understand
      >      > your thoughts and its
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >background, and avoid
the conflict or
      >      > user's confusion with existing
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >trademarks or products)
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     > Thanks @Kengo Seki for
consolidating all the
      >      > concerns. Name should represent the stack which includes
all the components
      >      > hence planning to have like bdp,bds...and this only one
file like below[1]
      >      > which has done redoop.
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      >
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      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     > On 07/07/22, 6:07 AM, "Kengo
Seki" <
      >      > sek...@apache.org> wrote:
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     The following concern
Masatake mentioned
      >      > before is an important point,
      >      > >          >>      >     >     so I talked to Brahma for
clarifying his
      >      > intention on the ASF Slack
      >      > >          >>      >     >     yesterday.
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     > Multiple versions of
the same package
      >      > (deb/rpm) can not be installed at the same time.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     > IIRC, HDP uses
convention in which the
      >      > product version is part of package name
      >      > >          >>      >     >     > for addressing this.
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     > I don't like to bring
the awkward package
      >      > name convention to Bigtop
      >      > >          >>      >     >     > at least by default.
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     He's planning to adopt
the same mitigation
      >      > as HDP for now, but he
      >      > >          >>      >     >     doesn't intend to change
the default
      >      > package naming convention of
      >      > >          >>      >     >     Bigtop,
      >      > >          >>      >     >     but just add a new
functionality to include
      >      > an extra part into the
      >      > >          >>      >     >     package name for avoiding
conflict, which
      >      > is disabled by default.
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     And Brahma, let me
confirm about the
      >      > following reply:
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     > Sure, we can have
module name like
      >      > bigtop-distro-select.
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     Do you mean that you're
going to name the
      >      > module (same as "component"
      >      > >          >>      >     >     in the Bigtop
terminology, I think)
      >      > bigtop-distro-select,
      >      > >          >>      >     >     and still the script in
question
      >      > bdp-select? If so, is there any
      >      > >          >>      >     >     reason that the script
must be that name?
      >      > >          >>      >     >     (No offence, I just want
to understand your
      >      > thoughts and its
      >      > >          >>      >     >     background, and avoid the
conflict or
      >      > user's confusion with existing
      >      > >          >>      >     >     trademarks or products)
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     Kengo Seki <
sek...@apache.org>
      >      > >          >>      >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at
2:08 AM Battula,
      >      > Brahma Reddy
      >      > >          >>      >     >     <bbatt...@visa.com.invalid>
wrote:
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     > >   The name of stack
based no Bigtop
      >      > should be Bigtop.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >   >   If you can not
accept the name like
      >      > bigtop-*, the work should done outside of Bigtop.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >   >  I will cast -1 if
someone submit a
      >      > patch to add a module with the name spoiling branding.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     > Sure, we can have
module name like
      >      > bigtop-distro-select.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     > Initially we'll do this
separate branch.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     > On 06/07/22, 8:55 AM,
"Masatake Iwasaki" <
      >      > iwasak...@oss.nttdata.co.jp> wrote:
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     > I believe it's
for project name.
      >      > isn't it.?
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     projects and
products.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     > IMO, We need to
create folders and
      >      > refer stacknames so ambari-select,bigtop-select wn't
looks good.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     The name of stack
based no Bigtop
      >      > should be Bigtop.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     If you can not
accept the name like
      >      > bigtop-*, the work should done outside of Bigtop.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     I will cast -1 if
someone submit a
      >      > patch to add a module with the name spoiling branding.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     On 2022/07/06
11:44, Battula, Brahma
      >      > Reddy wrote:
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     > I believe it's
for project name.
      >      > isn't it.?
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     > On 06/07/22, 7:27
AM, "Masatake
      >      > Iwasaki" <iwasak...@oss.nttdata.co.jp> wrote:
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      > But As we
are not releasing
      >      > as enterprise should be fine I think. IMO, We need to
create folders and
      >      > refer stacknames so ambari-select,bigtop-select wn't
looks good.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      Not fine.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      We have a
trademark policy.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >
      >      >
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      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      On
2022/07/06 10:37, Battula,
      >      > Brahma Reddy wrote:
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >> Should we
avoid
      >      > unrecognized brand which may be trademark of someone?
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >>
ambari-select or
      >      > bigtop-select should be enough.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      > Not sure,
where to confirm
      >      > whether there is already trademark. When I googled found
so many.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      > But As we
are not releasing
      >      > as enterprise should be fine I think. IMO, We need to
create folders and
      >      > refer stacknames so ambari-select,bigtop-select wn't
looks good.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      > May be you
can refer the
      >      > initial proposal [2] where I mentioned some more names.
      >      > (BDS-BigDataStack,OSS-OpenSourceSelect..)
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      > Finally
thanks a bunch for
      >      > long healthy discussions on this. Mostly we all same
page now.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      > 1.
      >      >
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      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      > 2.
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      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      > On
06/07/22, 4:01 AM,
      >      > "Masatake Iwasaki" <iwasak...@oss.nttdata.co.jp> wrote:
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > We
have still not
      >      > officially finalized the new replacement name for
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
hdp-select, it would
      >      > likely be bdp-select (bdp: BigData Platform). However,
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > the
purpose of
      >      > bdp-select and conf-select remains the same.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
Should we avoid
      >      > unrecognized brand which may be trademark of someone?
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
ambari-select or
      >      > bigtop-select should be enough.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      On
2022/06/29 13:52,
      >      > Viraj Jasani wrote:
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > Hi
Ambari/Bigtop dev,
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > As
per the new
      >      > roadmap of Apache Ambari, we would like to propose moving
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
certain scripts
      >      > (previously known as hdp-select and conf-select) to
Bigtop
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > so
that their rpm
      >      > installation could be managed independently.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
These scripts are a
      >      > basic necessity in the Ambari framework for the
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
installation of
      >      > various Bigdata packages. The only major changes they
would
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
receive is when we
      >      > onboard new services and components to Ambari, else they
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
usually do not
      >      > receive updates. In the past, we used to get hdp-select
rpm
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
downloaded and
      >      > installed from HDP repositories.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > We
have still not
      >      > officially finalized the new replacement name for
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
hdp-select, it would
      >      > likely be bdp-select (bdp: BigData Platform). However,
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > the
purpose of
      >      > bdp-select and conf-select remains the same.
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >     >
      >      > >          >>      >     >     >
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