David,

Yes, I understand that the functionality will only be available in case of the predefined log file appender. IMO, such assumption is too restrictive and it does not look that the default configuration will cover majority of use cases. Also, JIRA talks about providing offset in the log file. Does this mean that events can only be consumed by a tool? For human line number will be more useful.

Thank you,

Vlad

On 11/23/16 22:27, David Yan wrote:
Vlad,

The feature only works *if the log file name at error does not change later*
.

In this case, Priyanka proposes a default appender that the user can use
that has this behavior while log rotation is still supported.

If the user has a custom log appender, the feature can still work if it
satisfies the above requirement. Otherwise, there is no way for this
feature to work.

We can support a configuration option to force the inclusion of log
location and offset in the error STRAM event even if the Apex appender is
not used, if the user knows that they are using a custom appender that
satisfies the requirement.

David

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Vlad Rozov <v.ro...@datatorrent.com> wrote:

Additionally, I think that it is necessary to re-evaluate the
requirements. Custom logging is quite common and many enterprises/Devops
have own preferences/policy for log rotation and logging format. I saw
instances when logging was redirected to stdout. By enforcing specific
rotation policy or log format, the feature is more likely not to be used.

Thank you,

Vlad


On 11/23/16 14:21, Vlad Rozov wrote:

Both approaches look quite "hacky" to me.

Thank you,

Vlad

On 11/23/16 00:01, Mohit Jotwani wrote:

+1 - Approach 2

Regards,
Mohit

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:35 PM, AJAY GUPTA <ajaygit...@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1 for approach 2.

Regards,
Ajay

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:16 PM, David Yan <da...@datatorrent.com>
wrote:

The goal of this log4j appender is to provide a log offset and the fixed
name of the container log file (instead of apex.log becoming apex.log.1

and

then apex.log.2, etc due to rotation) as part of an error STRAM event
so
users can easily locate the log entries around the error.

The user can override the appender, but in that case, the engine
detects
that and will not include the log location as part of the STRAM event.

David

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Priyanka Gugale <

priya...@datatorrent.com

wrote:

Hi,
Thomas,
Yes log4j is ultimately owned by user, and they should be able to

override

it. What I am trying to do is provide a default behavior for Apex. In

case

user isn't using any logger of their own we should use this new

appender
of

Apex rather than using standard log4j appender as per hadoop config.

Sanjay,
Archetype is the good place to put this and I will add it there, but

many
time people won't use it. So I wanted to keep it at ~/.dt as well. Is
there

any other default config folder for Apex?

Also I am not relying on anything. If we fail to find config in app
jar

or

~/.dt we are going to skip usage of this new appender.

-Priyanka

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:58 AM, Sanjay Pujare <
san...@datatorrent.com
wrote:

The only way to “enforce” this new appender is to update the
archetypes
(apex-app-archetype and apex-conf-archetype under apex-core/ )  to
use
the
new ones as default. But there does not seem to be a way to enforce

this
for anyone not using the archetypes.
I agree with not relying on ~/.dt in apex-core.

On 11/22/16, 1:08 PM, "Thomas Weise" <t...@apache.org> wrote:

      The log4j configuration is ultimately owned by the user, so how

do
you
want
      to enforce a custom appender?

      I don't think that this should rely on anything in ~/.dt either

      Thomas

      On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Priyanka Gugale <
priya...@datatorrent.com>
      wrote:

      > Hi,
      >
      > I am working on APEXCORE-563
      > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/APEXCORE-563>
      > As per this Jira we should put log file name in

container/operator
events.
      > The problem is current RollingFileAppender keeps renaming
files

from

1 to 2
      > to ... n as files reach maximum allowed file size. Because of
constant
      > renaming of files we can't put a fixed file name in stram

event.
      >
      > To overcome this I would like to add a new log4j appender to
ApexCore.
      > There are two ways I can implement this:
      > 1. Have Daily rolling file appender. The current file will be
recognized
      > based on timestamp in file name. Also to control max file
size,

we
need to
      > keep rolling files based on size as well.
      > 2. Have Rolling File Appender but do not rename files. When
max

file

size
      > is reached create new file with next number e.g. crate log
file
dt.log.2
      > after dt.log.1 is full. Also to recognize the latest file keep

the
softlink
      > named dt.log pointing to current log file.
      >
      > I would prefer to implement approach 2. Please provide your
      > comments/feedback if you feel otherwise.
      >
      > Also to use this new appender we need to use our custom
log4j.properties
      > file instead of one present in hadoop conf. For that we need
to

set
jvm
      > option -Dlog4j.configuration. I am planning to update file
dt-site.xml in
      > folder ~/.dt  and default properties file available in apex
archetype to
      > set jvm options as follows:
      >  <property>
      > <name>dt.attr.CONTAINER_JVM_OPTIONS</name>
      > <value>-Dlog4j.configuration=log4j.props</value>
      >  </property>
      >
      > And I will copy log4j.props file in ~/.dt folder as well as
      > apex-archetypes.
      >
      > Lastly if someone still miss this new log4j properties file or

jvm
option
      > to set -Dlog4j.configuration we will not put log file name in

event
raised
      > by container or operator.
      >
      > Please provide your feedback on this approach.
      >
      > -Priyanka
      >






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