I believe it's important to respect the original intent of the project, namely 
to have the initial PMC consist of the 6 pre-incubation members. Given that 
some time has elapsed since that point, however, and individuals have had time 
to become involved in and contribute to the project, I think it would be fair 
to expand the PMC based on the criteria you suggested. I suggest that that such 
individuals as have demonstrated substantive involvement in those categories 
could be voted in to the PMC at this time, rather than at a future date.

Just my 2c.



Thank you,
Ilya Ganelin



-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Weise [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 12:43 AM Eastern Standard Time
To: [email protected]
Subject: Discuss PPMC


Hi,

This is to discuss and clarify the PPMC membership. As evident during the
first release vote, there have been grossly inconsistent expectations on
who is on the PPMC.

As most of us have learned meanwhile, unless documented otherwise at time
of incubation, the PPMC is the list of initial committers:

https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ApexProposal#Initial_Committers

In fact, as you can see, there are 49 people in the PPMC now. Several folks
expressed their surprise about this and indeed the intention was different.

We wanted to start the PPMC with the set of 6 committers of the pre-incubation
Apex repository and then grow by voting in new folks as we go.
Unfortunately that wasn't documented to the IPMC. Some of the initial
committers expressed the desire to put this topic up for discussion and
build consensus how we want to shape the PPMC and future PMC.

Folks seem to prefer a policy that is based on participation and
contribution. Here are examples of what that could comprise:

   - Code (obviously!)
   - Reviewing pull requests
   - Documentation
   - Organizing meetups and other events
   - Participation on email list
   - Web site work
   - Release management and verification
   - Publishing papers and blogs
   - Presenting at conferences

Next, there have been suggestions how such policy can be reflected in
actual (P)PMC membership, examples:

   - Trim PPMC to reasonable size. How? Folks that neither expect nor want
   to be in the PPMC may offer to resign and continue as committer.
   - At time of graduation, establish the PMC as the subset of active PPMC
   members, based on activity during incubation.

Starting with a realistic base allows us to grow the community and add
committers and PPMC members organically. Conceivably, initial committers that
had not had the chance to participate since incubation, may do so in the
future and if inclined, earn their membership. This then can be seen as
growth and diversification. Note following question in the incubator podling
status report: When were the last committers or PMC members elected?

Please express your thoughts on how to take it forward.

Thomas
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