Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: > Hi Mathias, > >>> Which really also might turn out as "never" - the unlikeliness of >>> the big-bang-change to happen was already pointed out (since when >>> are we talking about awt redesign? I personally think it's >8 years >>> now). >> >> If it doesn't happen, the pain to have them obviously is not big enough. >> If it hurts you that much, go on and make the change. > > Sorry, but that's nonsense.
No, seriously: if we still don't start changing this and instead of this do other things, then obviously the pain is not big enough to overcome the pain we feel in the other areas we are working. "Pain" isn't absolute here, it's always in relation to something else and to the relecance that the different parts have for the whole project. > How many years do we talk about a new resource system? How many pain did > it cause in the last 20 years that dialogs are developed by hacking a > text file, instead of some decent UI editor? How many man *years* have > been wasted by this? And what happened to ease that pain? Nothing at all! Maybe because other pain was bigger? Maybe because those feeling the pain didn't explain it good enough? Fact is, that everybody (including yourself) did something else. That means to me: other things have been more important. You won't change that by breaking a single interface. This will not remove the "pain" you have described. So I repeat my point: if re-working awt is important enough (and a general agreement about that exists), it should be done. Fixing a single interface is pointless and should be avoided. Ciao, Mathias -- Mathias Bauer (mba) - Project Lead OpenOffice.org Writer OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS Please don't reply to "nospamfor...@gmx.de". I use it for the OOo lists and only rarely read other mails sent to it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@api.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@api.openoffice.org