Agree, especially with the Long-term solution. I feel that the Manager API
and AdminAPI conflict in capability, leading to some ambiguity in the
positioning of the Manager API.

Zhiyuan Ju <juzhiy...@apache.org> 于2021年7月25日周日 下午5:38写道:

> Hi, community,
>
> After this discussion is closed, I will create 2 milestones to track
> progress:
>
> - Keep the current functionally compatible with Apache APISIX 2.7 -> 2.7.1
> - Support the functionality with Apache APISIX 2.8 -> 2.8 (Apache APISIX
> 2.8 is coming soon)
>
> Best Regards!
> @ Zhiyuan Ju <https://github.com/juzhiyuan>
>
>
> Zhiyuan Ju <juzhiy...@apache.org> 于2021年7月25日周日 下午3:39写道:
>
> > Hi, Shyamal,
> >
> > > Any changes to existing APIs should be visible to Dashboard team
> >
> > That's true, and due to the Dashboard is beyond the APISIX, I would
> prefer
> > supporting the current APISIX's functionally in the Dashboard, then
> > continuing watching on the status of APISIX, then we could update it as
> > soon as possible :)
> >
> > Do there have any other questions? If no, I'm glad to lead this and take
> > action next week.
> >
> > Best Regards!
> > @ Zhiyuan Ju <https://github.com/juzhiyuan>
> >
> >
> > Shyamal Madura Chinthaka <shyamal.mad...@gmail.com> 于2021年7月23日周五
> > 上午4:19写道:
> >
> >> Hi Zhiyuan Ju et al,
> >>
> >> Adding my 2 cents especially on the long term solution,
> >>
> >> I believe Dashboard should rely on more stable long term supported APIs
> >> from APISIX. API changes should be version and old version should be
> >> deprecated with support for a fair amount of time.
> >> Any changes to existing APIs should be visible to Dashboard team in
> >> advanced so that Dashboard team can adopt API changes relatively fast
> >> without delaying until the APISIX release is done.
> >>
> >> However problem should be discussed beyond the dashboard and possible
> >> compatibility issues with APISIX new changes.
> >>
> >> APISIX may have been integrated with other platforms for automation for
> >> things like microservice / low code development platforms (which I work
> >> with as well) thus immediate incompatibility with any API could run into
> >> obvious issues with other kinds of integration.
> >>
> >> Much Regards,
> >>
> >> Shyamal Madura!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 22:06 Zhiyuan Ju <juzhiy...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > After rethinking this issue, I have the following proposal:
> >> >
> >> > In the current architecture where DP and CP are separated, each party
> >> needs
> >> > to maintain JSONSchema data. Moreover, when APISIX is upgraded (API
> >> field
> >> > additions and deletions, plugins and their field additions and
> >> deletions),
> >> > Dashboard also needs to finish adapting and releasing new versions as
> >> soon
> >> > as possible, otherwise using a mismatched Dashboard will write data in
> >> ETCD
> >> > that APISIX may not support and create new problems. Therefore, global
> >> > hinting in Dashboard is not desirable and does not solve the
> fundamental
> >> > problem.
> >> >
> >> > To solve the problem of Dashboard and APISIX adaptation, the following
> >> plan
> >> > is adopted, divided into 3 phases.
> >> >
> >> > **Phase 1**
> >> >
> >> > The first phase requires a quick solution to the problem in the
> >> following
> >> > way.
> >> > 1. Now, the latest version of Dashboard is 2.7, and the latest version
> >> of
> >> > APISIX is 2.7.
> >> > 2. Disregard the historical version matching problem and deprecate the
> >> > version matching logic (manually maintaining a Mapper).
> >> > 3. Compare Dashboard 2.7 with APISIX 2.7 and sort out where
> Dashboard's
> >> > existing features are inconsistent with APISIX (API fields, plugin
> >> schema).
> >> > 4. Update Dashboard to match the existing features with APISIX 2.7 and
> >> > release version 2.7.1.
> >> >
> >> > **Phase 2**
> >> >
> >> > The second phase requires enriching Dashboard functionality to match
> >> APISIX
> >> > functionality.
> >> >
> >> > 1. Sort out which APISIX 2.7 features are not implemented in Dashboard
> >> > 2.7.1, such as Stream Proxy, Service Discovery, etc.
> >> > 2. Update the Dashboard to include the existing features of APISIX 2.7
> >> and
> >> > release version 2.7.2.
> >> >
> >> > **Phase 3**
> >> >
> >> > Phase 3 requires the Dashboard to synchronize the APISIX release
> >> schedule
> >> > and release APISIX with the same version number, e.g., 2.8, within a
> >> > manageable time frame after the release of APISIX.
> >> >
> >> > 1. APISIX milestones are visible in GitHub.
> >> > 2. After APISIX is released, sort out what is different between APISIX
> >> and
> >> > the previous version, and then adapt it in Dashboard.
> >> >
> >> > **Another Phase (Long-term solution)**
> >> >
> >> > In addition, I have a long-term plan, the current architecture is to
> >> > separate DP and CP, and the ManagerAPI in CP does a lot of functions
> >> that
> >> > AdminAPI duplicates, so we might as well deprecate ManagerAPI and turn
> >> > Dashboard into **a pure Web project**, directly accessing AdminAPI, so
> >> that
> >> > when the data in the Request Body is illegal, AdminAPI will return an
> >> error
> >> > directly. Of course, this requires a more detailed solution design and
> >> is a
> >> > big change.
> >> >
> >> > What do you think?
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards!
> >> > @ Zhiyuan Ju <https://github.com/juzhiyuan>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Zhiyuan Ju <juzhiy...@apache.org> 于2021年7月14日周三 下午1:46写道:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > Currently, Apache APISIX Dashboard and Apache APISIX are two
> separate
> >> > > projects (hereinafter referred to as Dashboard and APISIX). Whenever
> >> > APISIX
> >> > > changes the content (e.g., APIs, API fields, Entity definitions,
> >> etc.),
> >> > > Dashboard needs to match the changes and publish a new version.
> >> > >
> >> > > Because the Apache APISIX Dashboard's version number is not the same
> >> as
> >> > > Apache APISIX, then users get confused when using the Dashboard, so
> I
> >> > draft
> >> > > a proposal to support showing incompatible information more clearer
> on
> >> > the
> >> > > Dashboard.[1]
> >> > >
> >> > > Due to there have some prototypes I made, so I put them in the
> GitHub
> >> > > issue[1], looking forward to your feedback!
> >> > >
> >> > > [1]
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/apisix-dashboard/issues/1944#issuecomment-879607016
> >> > >
> >> > > Best Regards!
> >> > > @ Zhiyuan Ju <https://github.com/juzhiyuan>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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