Hi Luis!

> > Maybe Google are disappointed with our history of not keeping a single
> > student as a regular commiter (do they scan ohloh and notice this?)
> >
> 
> I think that this fact disappointed me very much, even if I wasn't a
> very good mentor due to personal reasons. All the students went away
> or are idle and this isn't good for mentors to see that their work in
> mentoring wasn't of long term value for the project.

There is no technical solution on this. What can be done is to try to figure 
why they all left. Maybe they considered their work for ArgoUML to be just a 
job for getting some money. We could try to establish and communicate values in 
the future like:

* get the satisfaction by becoming an expert for some open source code
* benefit long term from ArgoUML as a user and keep the capability to 
fix/enhance things
* learn to take over long term responsibility for the own code

etc.

> Another thing that I think makes ArgoUML not so hot today is because
> UML isn't a hot topic anymore. There is a majority of persons that use
> it for simple sketching or for drawing diagrams that help in conveying
> information and niches that really use it to do the round trip
> engineering things. MDA is also applied only in niches and the "hot
> stuff" of the day are dynamic languages, the Web and mobile
> development.

That's all true, I agree. ArgoUML should add some support that developers can 
benefit from, maybe beyond RTE or MDA. But we are blocked as long as we even do 
not get the plain UML stuff stable, which isn't hot work indeed.

> Maybe a specialized module for generating mobile applications?

Yes, definitely hot, as I replied to Andreas. But would be quite an effort. 
Maybe a new approach for how generators are made is needed. (What about using 
templates, or even model parts of the generator, maybe for using MDA 
techniques?)

> Alas, for me ArgoUML's sweet spot is and will always be the relative
> easiness of making diagrams that help in conveying information and
> knowledge. The drawing tools should never be removed :-)

Right, and let me add that personally I'd prefer an easy-to-install-and-run 
standalone tool over an eclipse integrated tool, but that's just me. An eclipse 
RCP based ArgoUML could both run standalone AND be integrated in eclipse, IIRC.

Thomas
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