OK, baseball reference. :)

Well, it's always easy to criticize. :) If we want TOSCA to be better, we
need to better participate in the process. There is an open JIRA for ARIA
to consolidate all our errata into a single proposal for OASIS.

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 1:00 PM, DeWayne Filppi <dewa...@cloudify.co> wrote:

> bush league == amateur hour
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Tal Liron <t...@cloudify.co> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, I did not understand that last comment about "bush league"!
> >
> > But yes, the spec is known to be flimsy and self-contradictory. In the
> end,
> > we must make a choice on how to implement things in ARIA, while taking
> into
> > account that other TOSCA implementations might interpret the spec
> > differently. (Even more ideally: provide configuration options for ARIA's
> > parser, so that it could better work with YAML files created for other
> > TOSCA implementations. We have a few of these configuration options
> > already.)
> >
> > This is exactly why the current PR for ARIA-1 is important: it
> introduces a
> > broad test suite for TOSCA syntax and grammar, which obviously follows
> the
> > interpretations we made for ARIA. But it can be run on other TOSCA
> parsers,
> > too, at least giving us information as to where other parsers differ in
> > their interpretations of the spec.
> >
> > I will say that our rules of thumb has generally been: 1) if a strict and
> > loose interpretation are possible, choose the stricter one, and 2) keep
> the
> > "spirit of the spec" in mind: object-orientation and enforcement of the
> > parent type contract.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:44 PM, DeWayne Filppi <dewa...@cloudify.co>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Wow.  That is reeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally bad and bush
> > league.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Tal Liron <t...@cloudify.co> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Examples" in the spec routinely break the syntax of the spec... I
> > think
> > > > it's best not to trust them.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:40 PM, DeWayne Filppi <
> dewa...@cloudify.co>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I suppose it lets you name interfaces whatever you want, which is
> > > > confusing
> > > > > because of other areas of the spec.  Note that there are tons of
> > > examples
> > > > > in the spec without the "type" specified.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Tal Liron <t...@cloudify.co>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I mentioned this to you in the previous thread: the "type" field
> is
> > > > > > required for interface definitions according to TOSCA syntax. So,
> > > even
> > > > if
> > > > > > it's the same as what you are inheriting, you must specify it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:04 PM, DeWayne Filppi <
> > > dewa...@cloudify.co>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now that the 'subclassing' problem has been resolved,
> overriding
> > > > > > interface
> > > > > > > methods is breaking.  Simple example:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tosca_definitions_version: tosca_simple_yaml_1_0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > imports:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   - aria-1.0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > node_types:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   T1:
> > > > > > >     derived_from: tosca.nodes.Root
> > > > > > >     interfaces:
> > > > > > >       Standard:
> > > > > > >         create:
> > > > > > >           implementation:
> > > > > > >             primary: i1.sh
> > > > > > >         delete:
> > > > > > >           implementation:
> > > > > > >             primary: i1.sh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The error, using Aria in the ARIA-1 branch:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Validation issues:
> > > > > > >   2: required field "type" in
> > > > > > > "aria_extension_tosca.simple_v1_0.definitions.
> > InterfaceDefinition"
> > > > > does
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > have a value
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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