yeah that's expected. The timing is complicated with people spread all
over. We will post notes after the meeting on the SIG-Build mailing
list and I'd also be up for organizing a separate call with europe
folks if that would be of interest.

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 19:29, 'Manuel Klimek' via SIG Build
<bu...@tensorflow.org> wrote:
>
> +Dmitri Gribenko
>
> Dmitri has experience with EasyBuild, which seems to be used by the HPC 
> community to solve the bootstrap problem and could be used to build a 
> toolchain image & pip package.
>
> Unfortunately we'll not be able to join the meeting as it's at midnight CEST 
> - looking forward to the conclusions from the meeting!
>
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 6:00 AM Jason Zaman <ja...@perfinion.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> We're having the TensorFlow SIG-Build meeting on 5th Feb 3pm PST
>> (https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20190205T15&p1=224).
>> Agenda is linked from:
>> https://groups.google.com/a/tensorflow.org/forum/#!topic/build/akyPcGoBIy4
>>
>> I'd like to invite everyone from this thread to join the call if at
>> all possible. The agenda for this meeting will spend most of the time
>> focusing on the manylinux issue and hopefully we can get together to
>> flesh out a decent plan on how to tackle this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jason
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 23:34, 'Manuel Klimek' via SIG Build
>> <bu...@tensorflow.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:21 PM Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Le 30/01/2019 à 16:09, Manuel Klimek a écrit :
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 3:51 PM Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org
>> >> > <mailto:anto...@python.org>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >     Le 30/01/2019 à 15:35, Manuel Klimek a écrit :
>> >> >     >
>> >> >     >     Am I reading you wrong, or are you actually proposing to
>> >> >     package another
>> >> >     >     libstdc++ version as a Python wheel?
>> >> >     >
>> >> >     >
>> >> >     > That would be the idea.
>> >> >     >
>> >> >     >
>> >> >     >     If so, are you going to claim that the given wheel is
>> >> >     >     manylinux-compatible?
>> >> >     >
>> >> >     >
>> >> >     > That is my question :) Why wouldn't it be? (I'd link it against
>> >> >     > manylinux libc and other C-only system libs)
>> >> >
>> >> >     The problem is when you are loading two modules that link against
>> >> >     different libstdc++ versions in the same process.  Incidentally, 
>> >> > it's
>> >> >     the problem which prompted this discussion.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Sure, I'm aware :) I think as long as the requirement that all libraries
>> >> > that want to exchange runtime-ABI-compatible versions are compiled with
>> >> > the same toolchain, we can provide a way to mangle the symbols
>> >> > differently.
>> >>
>> >> Ah, I see... Indeed, mangling the symbols may work for this.
>> >>
>> >> That said, if you're looking to create a de facto standard, why can't it
>> >> be proposed as a manylinux iteration?
>> >
>> >
>> > I'd have thought because it doesn't change the system requirements, while 
>> > manylinux seems to be all about system requirements.
>> > The idea is that that toolchain would still work on any manylinux 
>> > compatible machine.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Antoine.
>> >
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