I don't think the C# bindings would use the Glib-based libraries on Windows if 
it requires installing MSYS2 or Cygwin on the end-user's Windows machine. So 
don't go through the work building the Glib-based libraries with MSVC on 
account of the C# library.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sutou Kouhei <k...@clear-code.com> 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 4:43 PM
To: dev@arrow.apache.org
Subject: Re: Plasma scenarios

Hi,

> In theory you could use the GLib-based library with MSVC, the main 
> requirement is gobject-introspection
> 
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Generally, we can use the GLib-based library without GObject Introspection if 
we write bindings by hand. (We can generate bindings automatically with GObject 
Introspection.)

But we need to some tasks to build the GLib-based library with MSVC. I'll work 
on it in a few months.


Thanks,
--
kou

In <CAJPUwMC--Qj4fdEm5_4HCNH+0NBdAh0=9HVMTVX-At6rokN2=a...@mail.gmail.com>
  "Re: Plasma scenarios" on Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:00:00 -0500,
  Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi Eric,
> 
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 5:09 PM Eric Erhardt 
> <eric.erha...@microsoft.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> I was looking for the high level scenarios for the Plasma In-Memory Object 
>> Store. A colleague of mine suggested we could use it to pass data between a 
>> C# process and a Python process.
>>
>> I've read the intro blog [0] on Plasma, which describes using the same data 
>> set from multiple processes - which sounds like the same scenario as above.
>>
>> I am trying to prioritize creating C# bindings for the Plasma client. So I'd 
>> like to know all the scenarios that would could be enabled with Plasma.
>>
>> For example:
>> - could using Plasma speed up Pandas UDFs in PySpark? Because the data 
>> wouldn't have to go across the socket between Java and Python, but instead 
>> would be memory-mapped. We have similar functionality in .NET for Apache 
>> Spark.
> 
> Memory still would need to be copied into the memory-mappable file, so 
> it's unclear whether this would be faster than passing the data 
> through a socket as it's being done now.
> 
>> - Is Plasma being used by Nvidia RAPIDS?
> 
> AFAIK it is not. It doesn't seem out of the question, though, given 
> that we have some level of CUDA support in Plasma now.
> 
>>
>> I know Plasma today is not supported on Windows, but I think support could 
>> be added since Windows supports memory mapped files (through a different API 
>> than mmap) and it now supports Unix Domain Sockets [1].
>>
>> Also - side question about the c_glib bindings. I assume those will only 
>> ever work on Windows with something like Cygwin or MSYS2, right? Would 
>> people be opposed to adding pure "C" exports to the plasma library so the C# 
>> bindings could use it? (similar to the JNI support today).
>>
> 
> In theory you could use the GLib-based library with MSVC, the main 
> requirement is gobject-introspection
> 
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> ub.com%2FGNOME%2Fgobject-introspection%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2FMSVC.README.r
> st&amp;data=02%7C01%7CEric.Erhardt%40microsoft.com%7Cca22053d07d84cc6d
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> 
> Note that GLib itself is LGPL-licensed -- since it is an optional 
> component in Apache Arrow, it is OK for optional components to have an 
> LGPL dependency (though ASF projects aren't allowed to have 
> mandatory/hard dependencies on LGPL). So if you do go that route just 
> beware the possible issues you might have down the road.
> 
> I have no objection to adding a "plasma/plasma-c.h" with C exports.
> 
>> Eric
>>
>> [0] 
>> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fray
>> -project.github.io%2F2017%2F08%2F08%2Fplasma-in-memory-object-store.h
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>> ata=02%7C01%7CEric.Erhardt%40microsoft.com%7Cca22053d07d84cc6d98a08d7
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