Hi Niclas, thanks for your thoughts and suggestions. The last weeks showed some bad events; we addressed these on the pmc list and with a little luck they are solved and such things will not happen again. I wanted to send this info to the list sooner but my mail account was down until recently and currently I can only type with my left hand which makes typing a real pain.
However if we will find us in such a situation again, some actions like you listed might be taken; but currently we should give everyone another (last) chance. Carsten Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > Hi all, > > being mostly a listener, I need to vent my feelings about the recent > events here in Avalonland. > > First of all, > If you think everyone in the world is wrong, then it is probably yourself > that needs to change. > > I say that in respect to the current debate-makers, who IMVHO are more > concerned about hammering out and drive out their own opinion, than to > listen to good ideas. > > Berin - I think, that as a PMC Chair you are detrimental to this > community, and should consider to resign from the post. You are forcing a > way upon others, that these people are not interested in. After all, this > is OSS and not a corporation. People are here because of fun, and your > "management" is killing the fun. Stefano left because he was sick and > tired of the politics here, Peter D was ousted for "co-operation problems" > or whatever you want to call it, and you are on collision course with > Stephen. > I'm told and believe that you are a nice guy, but I, for one, think your > methods are not appropriate here. Being a committer is probably a better > role. > > Stephen - I always respect people with foresight and design skills, like > you have, but your temper and the way you express yourself, is often > offensive in subtle ways, which is worse than "Niclas, you are moron!" > expressions. You are right in many aspects of Merlin's future, and I think > you have done a great job so far, both in development and user support. > > > I would like the Avalon PMC to consider; > > 1. A new PMC Chair. There are plenty of reasonable and able candidates. > > 2. Drop the Avalon Containers!! All of them! Let them live independently, > at Apache or elsewhere. Then start working on a "Container Specs", such as > the meta-info. The existing containers can then evolve independently, with > their own "experience gathering" that is brought back to "Framework Land" > as user requests of evolution. > > > I would like to highlight that there are some very good talent in Avalon, > that I think is about to give up; Leo & Leo and Peter R are all always > making some very serious observations, but often overrun by Berin/Stephen. > This duo should not be let to destroy the community, because of their > constant in-fighting. > > > > Niclas Hedhman > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
