I do think it is the responsibility of the CLI to own this; we definitely
shouldn't rewrite PipelineOptions validation entirely, or programmatic uses
will have needless noise or bad messages. I think that when someone calls
fromArgs() they have sufficiently indicated that they are a CLI code path
and we can do the right thing.

Separate from that, it might be handy to expose such a utility for users
that build their command line options via some other mechanism.

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Lukasz Cwik <[email protected]>
wrote:

> In this case, we specifically asked in code to validate the options:
> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/1ea1de4aa9d32e3c5a596ccd7d84af
> f1cc2a7428/examples/java/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/
> examples/WordCount.java#L173
>
> It seems like we could know whether PipelineOptions validation is happening
> from the PipelineOptionsFactory.fromArgs() and/or have a special CLI
> option
> like --validate (similar to --help) that would provide names based upon
> arguments.
>
> In general, the PipelineOptionsValidator / .withValidation() method should
> provide information about what method has not been set when not used from a
> CLI.
>
> Or we make sure both are listed to not have this dichotomy based upon how
> PipelineOptions are used.
>
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > We should decouple CLI parsing validation from programmatic
> PipelineOptions
> > validation.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Lukasz Cwik <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This change assumes that all users are CLI users (compared to the
> > existing
> > > code which assumed that all users were programmatic users). Should we
> > word
> > > the message so its useful for both CLI and users who set the options
> > > programmatically?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Manu !
> > > >
> > > > I will review it.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > JB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 06/26/2017 02:59 PM, Manu Zhang wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks Kenn and JB, I just filed
> > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-2514 and PR
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/3438
> > > >> Please help to review.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Manu
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 12:20 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> > [email protected]>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Manu,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Agree, it makes sense.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards
> > > >>> JB
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 06/25/2017 12:57 PM, Manu Zhang wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi all,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Currently, if a required option is missing for a Beam pipeline,
> the
> > > >>>> error
> > > >>>> message is like
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException:
> > > Missing
> > > >>>>> required value for [public abstract java.lang.String
> > > >>>>> org.apache.beam.examples.WordCount$WordCountOptions.getOutput(),
> > > "Path
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> of
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> the file to write to"].
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This is quite long but doesn't give any hint to users about the
> > > required
> > > >>>> option. Instead, I'm thinking about something like
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException:
> > > Missing
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> required option [--output, "Path of the file to write to"].
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> It can be achieved by adding a method that *returns the option
> from
> > a
> > > >>>> method* to  ProxyInvocationHandler
> > > >>>> <
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/sdks/java/core/
> > > >>> src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/options/
> > ProxyInvocationHandler.java
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>    class.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> public String getOption(Method method) {
> > > >>>>     return gettersToPropertyNames.get(method.getName());
> > > >>>> }
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This may look general for ProxyInvocationHandler but you get the
> > idea.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> WDYT?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>> Manu
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > > >>> [email protected]
> > > >>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > > >>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > > --
> > > > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > > > Talend - http://www.talend.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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