Since PipelineOptionsFactory knows whether fromArgs was used, I think you
can just store a boolean in the builder[1] and create a new method on
PipelineOptionsValidator to print the "CLI" version of the output.

Also, I think you want the class+method for the non CLI approach since more
then one interface may define the same method and this tells the user
exactly where to look.

1:
https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/sdks/java/core/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/options/PipelineOptionsFactory.java#L182

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Manu Zhang <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Kenn and Lukasz.
>
> How about we add a hidden option to `PipelineOptions` and set depending on
> `args == null` in `PipelinOptionsFactory` ?
> Then, we can get in `PipelineOptionsValidator#validate` and there is no
> need to change the interface.
>
> @Hidden
> boolean getFromCLI();
> void setFromCLI(boolean fromCLI);
>
>
> Besides, for programmers, do you think we need to print `public abstract
> java.lang.String
> org.apache.beam.sdk.options.PipelineOptionsValidatorTest$
> Required.getObject()`
> or just `getObject()` ?
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 6:24 AM Lukasz Cwik <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Sounds good to me, thus the change as currently proposed in PR/3438 needs
> > some work to do this split.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I do think it is the responsibility of the CLI to own this; we
> definitely
> > > shouldn't rewrite PipelineOptions validation entirely, or programmatic
> > uses
> > > will have needless noise or bad messages. I think that when someone
> calls
> > > fromArgs() they have sufficiently indicated that they are a CLI code
> path
> > > and we can do the right thing.
> > >
> > > Separate from that, it might be handy to expose such a utility for
> users
> > > that build their command line options via some other mechanism.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Lukasz Cwik <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In this case, we specifically asked in code to validate the options:
> > > > https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/1ea1de4aa9d32e3c5a596ccd7d84af
> > > > f1cc2a7428/examples/java/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/
> > > > examples/WordCount.java#L173
> > > >
> > > > It seems like we could know whether PipelineOptions validation is
> > > happening
> > > > from the PipelineOptionsFactory.fromArgs() and/or have a special CLI
> > > > option
> > > > like --validate (similar to --help) that would provide names based
> upon
> > > > arguments.
> > > >
> > > > In general, the PipelineOptionsValidator / .withValidation() method
> > > should
> > > > provide information about what method has not been set when not used
> > > from a
> > > > CLI.
> > > >
> > > > Or we make sure both are listed to not have this dichotomy based upon
> > how
> > > > PipelineOptions are used.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Kenneth Knowles
> > <[email protected]
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We should decouple CLI parsing validation from programmatic
> > > > PipelineOptions
> > > > > validation.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Lukasz Cwik
> > <[email protected]
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This change assumes that all users are CLI users (compared to the
> > > > > existing
> > > > > > code which assumed that all users were programmatic users).
> Should
> > we
> > > > > word
> > > > > > the message so its useful for both CLI and users who set the
> > options
> > > > > > programmatically?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Manu !
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will review it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > JB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 06/26/2017 02:59 PM, Manu Zhang wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Thanks Kenn and JB, I just filed
> > > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-2514 and PR
> > > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/3438
> > > > > > >> Please help to review.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > > >> Manu
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 12:20 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Hi Manu,
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Agree, it makes sense.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Regards
> > > > > > >>> JB
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> On 06/25/2017 12:57 PM, Manu Zhang wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> Hi all,
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Currently, if a required option is missing for a Beam
> > pipeline,
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> error
> > > > > > >>>> message is like
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Exception in thread "main"
> > java.lang.IllegalArgumentException:
> > > > > > Missing
> > > > > > >>>>> required value for [public abstract java.lang.String
> > > > > > >>>>> org.apache.beam.examples.WordCount$WordCountOptions.
> > > getOutput(),
> > > > > > "Path
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> the file to write to"].
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> This is quite long but doesn't give any hint to users about
> > the
> > > > > > required
> > > > > > >>>> option. Instead, I'm thinking about something like
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.
> IllegalArgumentException:
> > > > > > Missing
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> required option [--output, "Path of the file to write to"].
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> It can be achieved by adding a method that *returns the
> option
> > > > from
> > > > > a
> > > > > > >>>> method* to  ProxyInvocationHandler
> > > > > > >>>> <
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/sdks/java/core/
> > > > > > >>> src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/options/
> > > > > ProxyInvocationHandler.java
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>    class.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> public String getOption(Method method) {
> > > > > > >>>>     return gettersToPropertyNames.get(method.getName());
> > > > > > >>>> }
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> This may look general for ProxyInvocationHandler but you get
> > the
> > > > > idea.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> WDYT?
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>>> Manu
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > >>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > > > > > >>> [email protected]
> > > > > > >>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > > > > > >>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > > > > > > Talend - http://www.talend.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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