-1 (non binding) gradle discourages contributions which is a big pitfall
for an asf project and maven/gradle comparison is unfair due to the
threading setup of maven (hardcoded thread count and no parallelize builder
tusage).


Le 28 nov. 2017 19:38, "Jason Kuster" <jasonkus...@google.com> a écrit :

> +1
>
> From the perspective of Beam's infrastructure, I've found that Gradle
> provides us a good amount more flexibility to do the kinds of builds we
> want. Additionally, the shorter run times (while not the only factor here)
> will allow us to stretch our finite executor resources further, leading to
> fewer instances where people are waiting for other builds to finish for
> their presubmits to start.
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Chamikara Jayalath <chamik...@google.com
> > wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> And thanks Luke for clearly mentioning the migration process. Let's make
>> sure that all major use cases of Maven are properly addressed before
>> removing Maven support.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Cham
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:09 AM Wesley Tanaka <wtanaka+b...@wtanaka.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/28/2017 07:55 AM, Lukasz Cwik wrote:
>>>
>>> This is a procedural vote for migrating to use Gradle for all our
>>> development related processes (building, testing, and releasing). A
>>> majority vote will signal that:
>>> * Gradle build files will be supported and maintained alongside any
>>> remaining Maven files.
>>> * Once Gradle is able to replace Maven in a specific process (or portion
>>> thereof), Maven will no longer be maintained for said process (or portion
>>> thereof) and will be removed.
>>>
>>> +1 I support the process change
>>> 0 I am indifferent to the process change
>>> -1 I would like to remain with our current processes
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Below is a summary of information contained in the disucssion thread
>>> comparing Gradle and Maven: https://lists.apache.org/threa
>>> d.html/225dddcfc78f39bbb296a0d2bbef1caf37e17677c7e5573f0b6fe
>>> 253@%3Cdev.beam.apache.org%3E
>>>
>>> Gradle (mins)
>>> min: 25.04
>>> max: 160.14
>>> median: 45.78
>>> average: 52.19
>>> stdev: 30.80
>>>
>>> Maven (mins)
>>> min: 56.86
>>> max: 216.55 (actually > 240 mins because this data does not include
>>> timeouts)
>>> median: 87.93
>>> average: 109.10
>>> stdev: 48.01
>>>
>>> Maven
>>> Java Support: Mature
>>> Python Support: None (via mvn exec plugin)
>>> Go Support: Rudimentary (via mvn plugin)
>>> Protobuf Support: Rudimentary (via mvn plugin)
>>> Docker Support: Rudimentary (via mvn plugin)
>>> ASF Release Automation: Mature
>>> Jenkins Support: Mature
>>> Configuration Language: XML
>>> Multiple Java Versions: Yes
>>> Static Analysis Tools: Some
>>> ASF Release Audit Tool (RAT): Rudimentary (plugin complete and
>>> longstanding but poor)
>>> IntelliJ Integration: Mature
>>> Eclipse Integration: Mature
>>> Extensibility: Mature (updated per JB from discuss thread)
>>> Number of GitHub Projects Using It: 146k
>>> Continuous build daemon: None
>>> Incremental build support: None (note that this is not the same as
>>> incremental compile support offered by the compiler plugin)
>>> Intra-module dependencies: Rudimentary (requires the use of many
>>> profiles to get per runner dependencies)
>>>
>>> Gradle
>>> Java Support: Mature
>>> Python Support: Rudimentary (pygradle, lacks pypi support)
>>> Go Support: Rudimentary (gogradle plugin)
>>> Protobuf Support: Rudimentary (via protobuf plugin)
>>> Docker Support: Rudimentary (via docker plugin)
>>> ASF Release Automation: ?
>>> Jenkins Support: Mature
>>> Configuration Language: Groovy
>>> Multiple Java Versions: Yes
>>> Static Analysis Tools: Some
>>> ASF Release Audit Tool (RAT): Rudimentary (plugin just calls Apache
>>> Maven ANT plugin)
>>> IntelliJ Integration: Mature
>>> Eclipse Integration: Mature
>>> Extensibility: Mature
>>> Number of GitHub Projects Using It: 122k
>>> Continuous build daemon: Mature
>>> Incremental build support: Mature
>>> Intra-module dependencies: Mature (via configurations)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wesley Tanakahttps://wtanaka.com/
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> -------
> Jason Kuster
> Apache Beam / Google Cloud Dataflow
>

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