I filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16683 to get some info
/ feedback from INFRA. After a bit of searching, the ideal that Davor
described is definitely possible and even normal.

Kenn

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:33 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com> wrote:

> Yea, the separation of commits@ and issues@ was just a nice thing to make
> both more readable. I could imagine looking at issues@ once in a while,
> but never commits@. Not terribly important. But separating watching and
> reporter is very helpful. Both devs and users may not want to actually
> track something forever just because they found it or thought of it.
>
> Kenn
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:05 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> commits@ or dev@ are common choices. Others are generally redundant or
>> means it is ignored by everybody which is fine but means you just drop
>> notif from jira instead of redirecting them ;)
>>
>> Just my 2 cts
>>
>> Le 18 avr. 2018 20:55, "Kenneth Knowles" <k...@google.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Annoyingly, it appears that the reporter is not automatically a watcher.
>>> It is incorrect that it is a strict degradation, but I agree that it is not
>>> a good change to make since it favors devs over users. I will chat with
>>> infra about whether we can set up the best case.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, perhaps I'll create a separate account for filing
>>> JIRAs...
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:56 AM Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> An INFRA ticket is needed.
>>>>
>>>> (As long as the report is automatically a watcher, the change is a
>>>> strict improvement. If not, it's a strict degradation.)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, every touch on a JIRA causes four notifications:
>>>>>
>>>>>  - all watchers
>>>>>  - current assignee
>>>>>  - reporter
>>>>>  - comm...@beam.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>> I think there are redundancies and imperfections here. If you report a
>>>>> bug you cannot later unsubscribe from it! I may be disproportionately
>>>>> spammed here... I try to compensate with filters, but it is not easy to 
>>>>> get
>>>>> the effect I want except by ignoring all JIRA.
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose:
>>>>>
>>>>>  - all watchers
>>>>>  - current assignee
>>>>>  - iss...@beam.apache.org (any ASF member or PMC chair can set up
>>>>> quickly, yes?)
>>>>>
>>>>> This way, you can report bugs and unwatch them. And if you do want the
>>>>> firehose of issues it is trivial to separate from commits.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this goes through INFRA ticket or maybe any ASF member or PMC
>>>>> chair can do the whole thing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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