That's a good document.

I have a general question:
Is there a reason why we do not assign reviewer/assignee/labels to PRs? I
see that we add @reviewer comments, but never actually assign reviewers.
Those are good tools that Github can use as filters for you.

--Mikhail

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On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 1:46 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:

> Thank you Huygaa. This document looks good to me. I think auto-assigning
> PRs could significantly help especially with first time contributors. It
> could also give us a chance to distribute reviews in a more balanced way
> across committers.
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 7:37 AM, Alexey Romanenko <
> aromanenko....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Strongly agree with auto assigning code reviewers, I guess this is one of
>> the main issue for first-starters to whom address their PR.
>>
>> Also, I’m totally pro for having review style guide which definitively
>> should help to unify review process and make it more transparent for all.
>>
>> Thanks to last efforts to reduce a number of open PRs, there are only
>> about 90 opened ones. I believe that most of them are “in progress” but
>> others are quite inactive. Perhaps, it would make sense to put some efforts
>> to review their status before they will be closed automatically by stale
>> bot.
>>
>> Alexey
>>
>>
>> On 28 Jun 2018, at 10:24, Etienne Chauchot <echauc...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for that ! I left comments in the doc, mostly agreements and also
>> a comment about public communication.
>>
>> Etienne
>>
>> Le mercredi 27 juin 2018 à 15:29 -0700, Robert Bradshaw a écrit :
>>
>> Thanks for writing this up! I especially like the idea of
>>
>> automatically assigning code reviewers, e.g. via
>>
>> https://help.github.com/articles/about-codeowners/
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 11:10 AM Scott Wegner <sc...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for putting together this proposal Huygaa. Overall looks good to me; 
>> I added some comments in the doc.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 7:44 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Does Kubernetes keep up with their backlog? We were hovering around 100 
>> before our recent addition of committers & stalebot, and now around 80. I 
>> can imagine their 1000 open PRs might be an OK steady state; they have some 
>> 6 month and 2 month PRs but the overall distribution might be sort of like 
>> ours. Is the data in a table somewhere? Couple other reference points: Spark 
>> has ~500, Flink ~400, Storm ~150, Rust ~150.
>>
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:35 PM Rafael Fernandez <rfern...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I did a quick pass on the doc and left minor comments, thanks! I have some 
>> feedback and thoughts:
>>
>>
>> For metrics and tools, there ought to be mature OSS projects out there we 
>> can learn from. I believe Kubernetes has a very healthy practice, it'd be 
>> ideal to learn from them. +Griselda Cuevas can connect you (and people 
>> working on this).
>>
>> I really like the idea of a style guide (which can evolve) for the various 
>> areas - presumably Java, Python, Go, etc. have their own. The reason I like 
>> it is because reviews become easier -- the reviewer will have an easier time 
>> working with the contributor to make sure together they can introduce great 
>> code that is consistent with the codebase (so they can focus on 
>> functionality and scale discussions, not style, which is published).
>>
>> I think setting review expectations is hard. Many of us in the community 
>> have various degrees of time devoted to development - some of us are paid to 
>> work on Beam full time, others part time, others are gifting their time and 
>> talent. I find inspiration in the Apache Code of Conduct [1] to instead 
>> empower people to communicate clearly. A company or a developer may choose 
>> to say "This is what you can expect from me", and say, opt-in to email 
>> reminders and such. And when something is time sensitive, we should trust 
>> reviewers to be Apache-y and do a micro version of "Step down consderately" 
>> -- "I can't commit to reviewing this by Friday, I suggest another person.", 
>> for example.
>>
>>
>> I think at the end of the day we all need to eliminate guesswork and promote 
>> the healthiest communication we can so we can all continue to grow the 
>> project as fast as we want.
>>
>>
>> r
>>
>>
>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 5:48 PM Huygaa Batsaikhan <bat...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Reuven, that's great. In this thread, we can continue discussing the usage 
>> of review tools, dashboards, and metrics.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 5:27 PM Reuven Lax <re...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> So I suggested a while ago that we create a code-review guidelines doc, and 
>> in fact I was coincidentally just now drafting up a proposal doc. I'll share 
>> my proposal doc with the dev list soon.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 5:18 PM Huygaa Batsaikhan <bat...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, I've been looking into ways to improve Beam's code review process based 
>> on previous discussions on dev list and summits, and I would like to propose 
>> improvement ideas. Please take a look at: 
>> https://s.apache.org/beam-code-review.
>>
>>
>> Main proposals suggested in the doc are:
>>
>>
>> Create a code review guideline document.
>>
>> Build/setup code review tools and dashboards for Beam.
>>
>> Collect metrics to monitor Beam's code review health.
>>
>>
>> Feel free to add comments in the doc. I am looking for all sorts of 
>> suggestions including existing code review guidelines, potential code review 
>> tools etc.
>>
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>>
>> Huygaa
>>
>>
>>
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