Thanks Jeff for the interest in this.

I think most of the existing GCP IO connectors use Google API client
libraries [1] due to historical reasons (these were the libraries that were
available when these connectors were originally built).
We should upgrade to latest Google Cloud client libraries [2] at some point
but I don't have an exact ETA for this.

Thanks,
Cham

[1] https://developers.google.com/api-client-library/
[2] https://cloud.google.com/apis/docs/cloud-client-libraries

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:38 AM Jeff Klukas <jklu...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> My apologies. I got the terminology entirely wrong.
>
> As you say, PubsubIO and other Beam components _do_ use the official
> Google API client library (google-api-client). They do not, however, use
> the higher-level Google Cloud libraries such as google-cloud-pubsub which
> provide abstractions on top of the API client library.
>
> I am wondering whether there are technical reasons not to use the
> higher-level service-specific libraries, or whether this is simply
> historical.
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:38 PM Anton Kedin <ke...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't have enough context to answer all of the questions, but looking
>> at PubsubIO it seems to use the official libraries, e.g. see Pubsub doc
>> [1]  vs Pubsub IO GRPC client [2]. Correct me if I misunderstood
>> your question.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://cloud.google.com/pubsub/docs/publisher#pubsub-publish-message-java
>> [2]
>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/2e759fecf63d62d110f29265f9438128e3bdc8ab/sdks/java/io/google-cloud-platform/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/io/gcp/pubsub/PubsubGrpcClient.java#L189
>>
>> Pubsub IO JSON client seems to use a slightly different approach but
>> still relies on somewhat official path, e.g. Pubsub doc [3] (javadoc[4]) vs
>> Pubsub IO JSON client [5].
>>
>> [3] https://developers.google.com/api-client-library/java/apis/pubsub/v1
>> [4]
>> https://developers.google.com/resources/api-libraries/documentation/pubsub/v1/java/latest/com/google/api/services/pubsub/Pubsub.html
>> [5]
>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/2e759fecf63d62d110f29265f9438128e3bdc8ab/sdks/java/io/google-cloud-platform/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/io/gcp/pubsub/PubsubJsonClient.java#L130
>>
>> The latter seems to be the older library, so I would assume it's for
>> legacy reasons.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Anton
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:03 AM Jeff Klukas <jklu...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm building a high-volume Beam pipeline using PubsubIO and running into
>>> some concerns over performance and delivery semantics, prompting me to want
>>> to better understand the implementation. Reading through the library,
>>> PubsubIO appears to be a completely separate implementation of Pubsub
>>> client behavior from Google's own Java client. As a developer trying to
>>> read and understand the implementation, this is a significant hurdle, since
>>> any previous knowledge of the Google library is not applicable and is
>>> potentially at odds with what's in PubsubIO.
>>>
>>> Why doesn't beam use the Google clients for PubsubIO, BigQueryIO, etc.?
>>> Is it for historical reasons? Is there difficulty in packaging and
>>> integration of the Google clients? Or are the needs for Beam just
>>> substantially different from what the Google libraries provide?
>>>
>>

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